Talk:Great Syrian Revolt
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Work in Progress
editI'm doing a full writing of the article, section by section. So you might find that most of it isn't there yet. You can come and check it out later or add it to your watchlist. If you can contribute to it, please do! Orionist 08:05, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
Disambig Removal
editI've removed the disambiguation at the head of the article that said "Druze Revolt redirects here, the defection of Druze forces in the 1947–1948 Civil War in Mandatory Palestine may also be referred to as the Druze revolt." as I have never seen the latter refered to as Druze Revolt, and a google search returns links that deal only with the subject of the present article. The disambig is not intended to reflect our personal opinions and what certain events may or may not be called. Please provide refs for such an inclusion. Poliocretes (talk) 19:02, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
Reason for disambiguation link
editI had original placed the link as it appears Israel army officals sometimes refer to the druze switching sides in the six day war as the druze revolt for example (bold added):
The Palestinian state of Ishmael, as envisioned by Rehavam Ze’evi http://www.haaretz.com/weekend/magazine/the-palestinian-state-of-ishmael-as-envisioned-by-rehavam-ze-evi-1.319271
"The idea of creating a Druze state was raised again after Israel’s sweeping victory in the Six-Day War. In a letter to Haaretz dated June 26, 1967, Binyamin Krisher of Tel Aviv wrote, “I am not very expert in the demographic conditions of the Golan Heights. But it seems to me that it makes sense to settle (voluntarily) the Druze from Syria and from Israel in this territory, which will constitute a Druze unit of self-rule. Naturally, this can be considered only if the Druze themselves aspire to it.” A week later, on July 2, a similar proposal was raised by another Haaretz reader, Ze’ev Katz, from Haifa: “After the IDF inflicted a crushing defeat on the Syrian forces, I think now is the time to pay a debt of honor and help the Druze liberate themselves from the burden of their generations-long oppressors, the fanatic Syrian Muslims. It is our duty to extend them aid and support in their battle to establish a free Druze state on Jabal al-Druze. What we did not do during the Druze revolt, we must now rectify."
But as this seems like a local usage, it may not warrent a disa link.
- OK, thank you. I'd also point out that while the disambig linked to a 1948 event, there is nothing in the paragraph above, or in the article, to suggest that "Druze Revolt" refers to the 1948 defection of the Druze. In fact, given the inclusion of "support in their battle to establish a free Druze state on Jabal al-Druze", I would argue that it very much refers to the 1925 revolt. There was no move for indepedence from Syria on the Jabal in 1948. Furthermore, the article above is a translation from a Hebrew original, so it may not even be a local term, but simply something the translator thought up. No place for disambig then. Poliocretes (talk) 18:08, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
Revolt of 1919
editThis is not the only Syrian revolt against the French.[1][2] FunkMonk (talk) 23:45, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
Flag of the Kingdom of Syria
editDid al-Atrash indeed use the flag of the Arab Kingdom of Syria? This was a question posted by Greyshark09 at Talk:1925 Hama uprising some time ago. Does anybody know if a flag was ever decided on by the rebels? The article does not currently say. --Al Ameer (talk) 15:57, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks. If no source is found - it should be removed.GreyShark (dibra) 18:47, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
- From a shallow search on google books, what I found was: "While he certainly flew his own standard, Sultan al-Atrash claimed he was the first to raise the Arab flag over the Jabal" (Provence, p. 42). The "Arab flag" is certainly referring to the Sharifian flag used in the article. The context of the quote is how the Druze of Hauran, led by the Atrash family, developed close ties with the Hashemites in 1916 and onward. This leads me to believe the rebels used the flag during the 1925 revolt, but I have not yet found any source that specifically mentions the flag of the 1925 revolt. --Al Ameer (talk) 00:07, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
- This is not sufficient for now.GreyShark (dibra) 16:20, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
- From a shallow search on google books, what I found was: "While he certainly flew his own standard, Sultan al-Atrash claimed he was the first to raise the Arab flag over the Jabal" (Provence, p. 42). The "Arab flag" is certainly referring to the Sharifian flag used in the article. The context of the quote is how the Druze of Hauran, led by the Atrash family, developed close ties with the Hashemites in 1916 and onward. This leads me to believe the rebels used the flag during the 1925 revolt, but I have not yet found any source that specifically mentions the flag of the 1925 revolt. --Al Ameer (talk) 00:07, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
"See also" link
editThere needs to be a "see also" link to Sirocco (film), since that's how the largest number of Westerners in the post-WW2 period would have even heard of the revolt. AnonMoos (talk) 00:48, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
"Strength" section of the infobox section needs to be clarified
editSaid section needs to be clarified to be clarified to show the respective strengths of each side. Firestar464 (talk) 11:10, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
Syrians won the revolution
editFrench lost the Syrian revolution 2A0E:9CC0:2429:A900:3D42:8C13:A6C7:251 (talk) 11:57, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
New article
editIn the last couple of days a completely new article has been substituted for the previous one, which had been built up by the contributions of a number of Wikipedia editors over an extended period. The deleted article was generally well sourced and politically neutral, meeting the standards expected of modern Wikipedia writing. By contrast the new article has numerous style and grammar errors and follows a strongly Syrian nationalist line (i.e. disregarding the roles and concerns of the diverse minority groups making up the mandated territories of what is now Lebanon and Syria). I would suggest that reliably sourced material from both articles should be merged into a better written composite article, giving an accurate historical account of this important event in Levantine history. Buistr (talk) 04:41, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Buistr: Agreed. Al Ameer (talk) 04:43, 27 January 2022 (UTC)