Talk:Grbavica (film)

nonexistent language ?!

2006-04-05 17:05:53 Luka Jačov m (Erased nonexistent language)

Um.. The Bosnian Language does not exist? The article seems to indicate otherwise! Target articles like the afformentioned, not these.

--Godtvisken 03:44, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

yeah it does exist, read up on the bosnian language

What's interesting is that the official website for the movie and several movie databases list the language as "Croatian", not Bosnian nor Serbian. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.96.132.225 (talk) 19:04, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

cut and paste from ebay?

Which came first, the article or the eBAY synopsis?

Deleting references and sources?

I don't understand, why did you delete this sourced sentence and notes:

A Bosnian-Austrian-Croatian-German co-production, the film deals with the systematic rapes of Bosniak women¹ during the Yugoslav wars in the 1990s by Serb troops called Chetniks. [1] [2] [3].

It is very important to show the context of the movie, Zbanic Jasmila also explained that many times. Kruško Mortale 18:04, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Here is an interview with Jasmila, and she explains the context of the movie, and mentions who is responsible for the war crimes: [4]: "Grbavica is a neighborhood just across from the building where I live. During the war this area was held under siege by the Serbo-Montenegrin Army, and transformed into a special war camp where the population was tortured."

• I agree that the context of the movie should be explained. I rewrote you contribution in such a way that it does this now.

• I guess that you agree that the name "Serb" is never ever mentioned in the movie, so it should als not appear in the direct description of the movie.

• concerning the external link: these "sense-agency" links contain some non-standard elements, and my browser crashes for them. See also the what should be linked to paragpaph in Wikipedia:External_links

Nahabedere 13:20, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Chetnicks

Although it is true that the author uses the name Chetnicks in the film, when we write about the film topic, we can't talk about chetnicks who raped Bosnian women, because there were no chetnicks in Bosnian wars.

so the movie is about ghosts, or what? and when people during the war said "the chetniks shot at me", they spoke about imaginary bullets coming from imaginary guns used by imaginary soldiers? Nahabedere 07:30, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Someone can say "Animal shot me", but that doesn't mean that we should write about animals that shoot people.

the wikipedia claims that unoficcially there indeed were people who were calling themselves Chetnik and that they engaged in war crimes https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Chetniks#Yugoslav_Wars

"Chetnik units engaged in mass murders and war crimes.[149] In 1991, the Croatian town of Erdut was forcefully taken over by the SDG and JNA[178] and annexed to the puppet state of Republic of Serbian Krajina. Croats and other non-Serbs were either expelled or killed with Serbs repopulating empty villages in the area.[179] On 1 April 1992, the SDG attacked Bijeljina and carried out a massacre of Muslim civilians.[180] On 4 April, Chetnik irregulars helped the JNA in shelling Sarajevo. On 6 April, Chetniks and the JNA attacked Bijeljina, Foča, Bratunac, and Višegrad. On 9 April, the SDG and Šešelj's Chetniks aided the JNA and special units of the Serbian security force in overtaking Zvornik and ridding it of its local Muslim population.[181]

Reports sent by Ražnatović to Milošević, Ratko Mladić, and Blagoje Adžić stated the plan was progressing, noting that the psychological attack on the Bosniak population in Bosnia and Herzegovina was effective and should continue.[182] Chetnik forces also engaged in mass murder in Vukovar and Srebrenica.[149] The White Eagles were responsible for massacres in Voćin, Višegrad, Foča, Sjeverin, and Štrpci,[170] and for terrorizing the Muslim population in Sandžak.[183] In September 1992, Chetniks attempted to force Sandžak Muslims in Pljevlja to flee by demolishing their stores and houses whilst shouting "Turks leave" and "this is Serbia". By mid-1993, they suffered over a hundred bombings, kidnappings, expulsions, and shootings. The SPO threatened Muslims with expulsion when reacting to requests for autonomy in Sandžak.[184]" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.8.231.125 (talk) 17:14, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

A sentence

It has however been shown in Serbia itself.

Why is this so odd & surprising that it has to be mentioned? Because the majority of Serbia's population is ethnicly Serb? But then we're generalizing, giving the sentence - Look, look - an ethnic Serb watches it! which is, excuse me, but very improper. --PaxEquilibrium 08:54, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

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Language spoken in the film

Since a non-existent language like Bosnian can be listed as the language in the film I think that Serbian has an even bigger right to be listed because Mirjana Karanovic is of Serbian nationality and she speaks Serbian in the movie. Ijekavian is also a variant of the Serbian language as spoken in Republic Srpska. Bosnian is not an ethnicity as there are Serbian Christians and Muslims and Croatians living in a single country hence it can be either Serbian or Croatian - the Muslim population cannot have its own language on the basis of a different religion since languages arent governed by religion but by ethhnicity. There isnt American (even though there was a brutal civil war between american english and british english), Brazilian, Mexican, Australian and New Caladonian but English, Portugese, Spanish, English and French respectively. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.27.248.145 (talk) 00:38, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

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