Talk:Governing body
Corporate?
editWhy are governing bodies described as "a corporate form of management"? Isn't "governing body" essentially synonymous with "government"? If not, why not? Sarge Baldy 03:09, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
Requested move 21 February 2018
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The result of the move request was: not moved but anyone is free to propose an alternative move. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:59, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
Governing body → Governing Body – There are two types of titles mixed together on this page: three of the links are titles for a thing actually named "Governing Body", and capitalized to reflect that this is a formal name; and the remaining six are either non-matching titles or partial title matches describing bodies engaged in some kind of governance. Move this page to the capitalized form and redirect the lowercase to governance, which covers this topic. bd2412 T 11:53, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose – For the entries that are proper nouns, none of them are actually named "Governing Body" – for all of them, "Governing Body" is only part of some longer name. The lowercase form seems more general and therefore more appropriate for a DAB page title. Regarding the idea of redirecting to governance, that is an article, not a dab page, so anyone looking for articles about a governing body would instead be sent to an article about the general idea of governance, which is a different idea. —BarrelProof (talk) 17:19, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
- The fact that the other bodies are not actually named "Governing Body" means that we have a disambiguation page with zero matching titles, and only mismatches. bd2412 T 17:36, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
- But why would we have a dab page for "Governing Body" that contains no topics that match that capitalized proper noun name? The capitalization would appear to disambiguate between different topics with the proper noun name "Governing Body", which is not what we have here. As lowercase, "governing body" seems appropriate to describe a class of organizations. Also, "governing body" is also not synonymous with governance, so why would we send people directly there if they are looking for "governing body"? —BarrelProof (talk) 17:50, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
- Perhaps the solution is to have an article on the concept of a governing body? The current situation is dubious, at best. bd2412 T 18:02, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
- But why would we have a dab page for "Governing Body" that contains no topics that match that capitalized proper noun name? The capitalization would appear to disambiguate between different topics with the proper noun name "Governing Body", which is not what we have here. As lowercase, "governing body" seems appropriate to describe a class of organizations. Also, "governing body" is also not synonymous with governance, so why would we send people directly there if they are looking for "governing body"? —BarrelProof (talk) 17:50, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
- The fact that the other bodies are not actually named "Governing Body" means that we have a disambiguation page with zero matching titles, and only mismatches. bd2412 T 17:36, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose – For same reasons as bd2412. jamacfarlane (talk) 03:47, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose as per BarrelProof. Shadow007 (talk) 15:15, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
- Support alternative move, per April 2015 {{dabconcept}} tag, and above arguments for keeping the dab page and having a governing body concept page. Move governing body → Governing body (disambiguation), then change governing body to a redirect to governance tagged with {{R with possibilities}} (unless an editor is ready to create a broad concept article); a governing body is tasked with governance, so while the concepts are not identical, it is reasonable to cover both on the same page. —Ost (talk) 17:26, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
- I suppose we could start with something like:
- A governing body is a group of people that has the authority to exercise governance over an organization or political entity. The most formal is a government, a body whose sole responsibility and authority is to make binding decisions in a given geopolitical system (such as a state) by establishing laws. Other types of governing include an organization (such as a corporation recognized as a legal entity by a government), a socio-political group (chiefdom, tribe, family, religious denomination, etc.), or another, informal group of people. In business and outsourcing relationships, governance frameworks are built into relational contracts that foster long-term collaboration and innovation. Poor governance can lead to contract failure.[1]
- — Preceding unsigned comment added by BD2412 (talk • contribs) 20:29, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
References
- ^ Vitasek, Kate; et al. (2011). The Vested Outsourcing Manual (1st ed.). New York: Palgrave Macmillan. ISBN 0230112684.
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