Talk:Gender of God in Christianity

Expansion needed

• More early Christian groups
• More mainline Protestant denominations
• A bit more on gender of the first two persons of the Trinity in the NT
• Any sections we're missing on other modern Christians?

--Alynna (talk) 10:38, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

You've done really well here, imo Alynna.

The meaning of masculinity in God's role as Father is expanded on in a lot of theology--father as provider and protector and so on. I think you're absolutely right, that needs considerable development.

Similar expansion on Jesus' masculinity is also available in a lot of mainstream Protestant writing on gender. Jesus is the obvious role-model husband. Ephesians 5 commentaries will say a lot about this, because Paul commands Christian husbands to love their wives like Christ loved the church.

A very important point for this article is that most Christian groups define masculinity in the image of Father and Son, not vice versa, therefore Christians often have a different definition of masculinity to the rest of the world. In the Christian view, being male isn't any good if you don't combine it with being masculine in the way Father and Son are masculine, i.e. in a good way. There are lots and lots of sources.

Nearly all mainline Protestant denominations are going to say the same thing on this particular topic Alynna.

What the Catholic CCC says about God's fatherhood would also be accepted by pretty much all Protestants.

Orthodox denominations aren't covered at the moment (Greek, Russian and Syrian), though I'd expect they'd be the same as Catholics and Protestants on this particular topic.

If you're going to include Mormons, you should probably include Jehovah's witnesses (who don't believe in the Trinity) and Christadelphians. These three groups do not consider Prot, Cath, Orth to be Christian, nor do the three main branches consider any of these three other groups to be Christian. But I'll let floods of other people who end up here make that point.

Seventh Day Adventists are another large Christianish group. Personally, I feel they are Christian, but many feel they are not. There are lots of different ways to "draw lines" around Christianity. The divinity of Jesus and hence the Trinity are the main ones.

Finally, what would actually be more interesting than including modern heretics is including ancient ones. If modern ones are included, the ancient ones certainly should be. Gnostics had a range of interesting views regarding Gender. Montanism is also famous and interesting with regard to the gender of God. Some Jehovah's Witnesses claim direct decent from ancient Arianism, which they don't consider heretical, though everyone else does. Alastair Haines (talk) 20:06, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Correction needed

Not only is expansion needed, but some serious correction. The article seems to want to imply that Christians consider God to be male, when this is not the case for the majority.We'll need to get more research and references put in. In the meantime, be aware that much of this article is simply incorrect. DJ Clayworth (talk) 15:59, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

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