Talk:Gasan, Marinduque

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Buidhe in topic Requested move 26 January 2021
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Requested move 26 January 2021

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 10:59, 2 February 2021 (UTC)Reply



– Looking at the pageviews, number of backlinks, and the contents of the articles themselves, it seems clear that the Philippine municipality is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for the base name "Gasan" over the Korean mountain, Korean neighbourhood, Korean train station, and the Azerbaijani village (which seems to have been imported from the GEOnet Names Server and could not be attested to actually exist based on the article text). seav —(talk) 10:15, 26 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

  • Strong oppose 555 out of 900 page views is marginal, might pass if supported by GBooks, but in GBooks not even close. fails "Gasan was" test. And guess what fails "Gasan is" test as well. Seav, please look again at WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, the full guideline. In ictu oculi (talk) 17:01, 26 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • Oppose. According to the clickstream dataset for November, the most clicked-on link from the dab page was for Gasan, Azerbaijan (with 12 hits). No other link received more than 10. – Uanfala (talk) 17:06, 28 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
    • I fail to see why this is really relevant. Unless you are able to show more of the clickstream data, we don't really know why or how people arrived at the disambiguation page in the first place. Perhaps the people that would have otherwise clicked on the other articles linked from the dab page already arrived to their preferred article directly. —seav (talk) 10:05, 29 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
      • There are two aspects of a primary topic: long-term significance and usage. A topic is primary for a term with respect to usage if it is highly likely—much more likely than any other single topic, and more likely than all the other topics combined—to be the topic sought when a reader searches for that term. The pageviews are the total article traffic (the vast majority of which is coming from links) and hence show the relative popularity of the articles, which can only be used as a vague and indirect indicator of both usage and long-term significance. Unlike pageviews, the clickstream data show usage directly – 12 of the visitors to the dab page in November clicked on the link to the Azerbaijani village, and no other link received more than 10 clicks for that month. Yes, we don't know with 100% certainty why or how each of those visitors had arrived at the disambiguation page, but I don't see any indication that this case is different from other dabs – it doesn't have incoming wikilinks, and it's not at a title previously occupied by an article (so external incoming links are unlikely). – Uanfala (talk) 12:55, 29 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • Support GBooks mentions of "Gasan" are primarily that of a given name which would be more appropriately listed under Gasan (given name) or Ghassan (given name) per WP:NAMELIST and WP:PARTIAL. The unqualified name however has only those two candidates, the municipality of 30,000+ people in Marinduque and the village in Azerbaijan of unknown size, population and status. The municipality is the primary topic in English sources.--RioHondo (talk) 08:41, 29 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
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