Talk:Garamantes

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Does not their decline, c.6th century AD, coincide closely with the collapse of the western Roman empire, especially completely after the reign of eastern Emperor Justinian ? 66.235.26.150 (talk) 20:56, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

More information here: History of the Arabs in the Sudan by Sir H. MacMichael, around p. 32. Esp. connexions with the Noba people and 'current' (ie, 19th c.) distribution, which this article lacks. -LlywelynII (talk) 16:27, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Maternus

Who is Maternus the chronicler? I can't find anything on such a guy. Stevebritgimp (talk) 14:18, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Another source

This article on ScienceCodex.com, summarizes some research done last year by the University of Leicester, mapping via satellite and a ground survey an extensive, highly built-up civilization that flourished "between AD 1-500," including large, fortified buildings, residential quarters, and a agricultural areas. Maybe someone with more time and/or interest would like to incorporate the data into the article? I'm just swamped right now with R/L, myself. --Eliyahu S ^Talk 18:24, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Nothing in that article other than an open question of what if anything has been produced by the Researchers with the 2.5 million Euros granted them by the European Research Council (sigh ... more money for nothing!) 2001:8003:70F5:2400:9107:C71E:CFB9:9AAE (talk) 14:43, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

To add to article

To add to this article: mention of the Garamantes's language. 173.88.246.138 (talk) 15:49, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

"الإمبراطورية الجرمنتية" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect الإمبراطورية الجرمنتية has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 May 17 § الإمبراطورية الجرمنتية until a consensus is reached. Pichpich (talk) 20:49, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

August 2023

With regard to this edit by the IP:

[1] is clearly unreliable.

[2] doesn't appear to support the claim. The IP is welcome to cite the exact page for verification.

[3] is unreliable (not even sure it supports the claim).

[4] is based on Wikipedia.

[5] doesn't appear to support the claim.

[6] doesn't support the claim.

[7] doesn't appear to support the claim.

[8] doesn't support the claim that they settled in the Fezzan region by at least 3500 BC.

If the IP disagrees with the above, they are more than welcome to quote the exact sentences that support whatever claim they are attributing to these sources. M.Bitton (talk) 22:23, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

@M.Bitton "Garamantes settled in fezzan by 3500 bce." 165.16.20.39 (talk) 22:28, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

@M.Bitton and why aren't they reliable edu academia is reliable. 165.16.20.39 (talk) 23:26, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

Before we discuss their reliability, we must first establish that they support the claim that you are attributing to them. Please follow the above format and quote the relevant info from each one of them. M.Bitton (talk) 08:10, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

@M.Bitton you still didn't read my explanation neither did you say is it reliable or not you ignored it. 165.16.20.39 (talk) 15:25, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

@M.Bitton at least read my respond 165.16.20.39 (talk) 15:56, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

What exactly am I supposed to read and why do you refuse to quote the relevant info (as asked)? M.Bitton (talk) 16:46, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

@M.Bitton not to explanation I left for each source on your talk page. 165.16.20.39 (talk) 16:49, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

You left nothing on my talk page and in any case, it's here that you are supposed to quote the relevant info. So, for the love of god, please do that and stop wasting my time with your irrelevant requests. M.Bitton (talk) 16:50, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

@M.Bitton i left them in your talk page. becuase I wasn't able to write here but okay "According to Prof. Fabrizio Mori, who with his excavations in that area had discovered a mummy dating back to 3500 BC," according to origin if the Garamantes. by academia edu 165.16.20.39 (talk) 16:53, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

You're not making sense. Please follow the above format (leave the source in question and the quote next to it). M.Bitton (talk) 16:55, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

@M.Bitton the source for that is origins of the Garamantes i can't put the link but its on academia.edu 165.16.20.39 (talk) 16:57, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

I'm in no mood to play games, so either you put as much effort as I did or you find yourself another hobby. M.Bitton (talk) 16:58, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Script section

I quickly read through the article, and when I came to the Script section at the bottom of the page, I couldn't help noticing the numbers '67', '68', and '69' embedded in the text of the quote. I wondered about deleting them, as they don't help with clarity of reading, and do not appear to reference anything else - but hesitated as they might mean something important (since the article is semi-protected). Can they be deleted, or do they mean something (in which case, can that meaning be made clearer?) Constantinople76 (talk) 05:49, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

1500 bc Possible ?

@M.Bitton Sorry but using Visual edit doesn't usually show page. Okay I can write the sources and their quotes. The Sahara book says "Although settling in Homeland Libya around 1500 Bc". Middle East And Africa "in Approximately 1500. The Garamantes introduced Chariots" and I can't remember the what the other sources say. But I hope this is enough Jake106meme (talk) 17:41, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

@Jake106meme: while the quotes would help, the page numbers are still important for verifiability. Please add the important part of what those sources say to the article's body (the lead can be amended later). BTW, the book published by LULU is WP:SPSe, so please don't use it. M.Bitton (talk) 18:01, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. But for verification the two books I got the quotes from are not from that published company or publisher right. Jake106meme (talk) 19:39, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Festus campaign

@R Prazeres about festus campaign it the first sources says "Oea was hopelessly outweighted and called in the Garamantes, who pillaged the countryside unmercifully. Valerius Festus, the Roman commander, intervened, drove back the Garamantes, settled the dispute, and emulated Balbus by a demonstration far into the Fezzan. Tacitus' account has a curious phrase: the plunder was recovered nisi quam to wander through the unapproachable fields beyond vendiderant. I cannot feel certain what this means: 'Except for what had been sold to more distant tribes by nomads' or 'them as they scattered' - 'through the inaccessible regions where people live in huts'. Or does mapalium go somehow with ulterioribus ? If we understood the words they would be a small contribution to our knowledge of the people of the south. We know nothing of the campaign, except that Festus found a new route" while the second says "Garamantes to flight and recovering part of their booty" and "The retreat of the Garamantes, with less serious" i would like to add from the book garamantes of southern Libya this qoute from Pliny records that there was now a change from the previous conditions 'when it had been impossible to open up the road to the Garamantes because robber bands of that people filled in the wells with sand- which wells do not require to be dug very deep if you have a knowledge of the locality' Kerdasan hero (talk) 10:58, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

None of that supports your addition. And this WP:OR style is familiar. R Prazeres (talk) 18:52, 30 November 2024 (UTC)