Talk:Free German Youth

Logo

The logo shown is that of the present-day "organization" not the FDJ of the DDR. I'll scan the correct logo in later if no-one else gets to this first. ProhibitOnions 15:53, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Well, but if you visit now http://www.fdj.de/index2.html and you read all documents or see all logos, they still use the "historical logo" as as their logo. They don't use the "new" logo which is here shown. xenon_soft 16:49, 21 May 2006 (GMT +1)

You are right, so I removed the "new" one.  ProhibitOnions  ^(T) 20:11, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Quote: "In 1952, Phillip Müller, a member of the FDJ, was shot by the West German armed forces during a demonstration. Large numbers of the FDJ's membership were imprisoned." extremly doubtfull, needs citation! Moving to new section.--Goldsztajn (talk) 04:40, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Death of FDJ member

Quote: "In 1952, Phillip Müller, a member of the FDJ, was shot by the West German armed forces during a demonstration. Large numbers of the FDJ's membership were imprisoned." extremly doubtfull, needs citation!—Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.152.252.67 (talk) 2006-05-26

citation added.--Goldsztajn (talk) 04:40, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Someone has edited the part about Phillip Müller's killing with the ridiculous claim that he was shot by the Volkspolizei. Since the demonstration he was shot at was in Essen, North Rhine-Westphalia in the Frederal Republic of Germany whilst protesting against West German re-armament anyone can see that the claim that the GDR police shot him is nonsense and the change is vandalism. Ecadre (talk) 00:46, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

KPD

"In 1951, the government of Konrad Adenauer banned the FDJ along with the KPD". According to other articles (e.g. Federal Constitutional Court of Germany), the KPD was banned in 1956, not 51, and by the court, not by the Adenauer government. Presumably the FDJ was banned in '51 by the Adenauer government? And not by the court? If this is correct, then given that the KPD was allowed to exist for a further five years, the article doesn't explain why the FDJ was banned first - unless it was the case that the government was allowed to ban the FDJ itself, whereas to ban the KPD it needed the court's permission, which took longer? --86.133.243.52 17:48, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

According to the German constitution, only the federal constitutional court(Bundesverfassungsgericht) can ban a recognised poltical party as the KPD was, other organizatians can be banned by ministers of the interior. 134.93.49.9 (talk) 09:41, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

now shares a building with

Where - in any city or in Berlin?Xx236 10:52, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

'Indoctrination' is an opinion, not a fact

"The political and ideological goal of the FDJ was to influence every aspect of life of young people in the GDR, distribution of Marxism-Leninism and the indoctrination of socialist behavior." "While the movement was intended to indoctrinate East Germany's young people in Marxism-Leninism.." (The italisation is mine - Rides)

These statements are a judgemental not factual. These judgements are taken over from a Berlin radio broadcaster. Wikipedia should be neutral. - Rides (talk) 12:56, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

I agree, so I have changed them into statements that carry the same meaning but have a neutral connotation. For example, instead of "indoctrinate East Germany's young people in Marxism-Leninism", I wrote "promote Marxist-Leninist ideology among East Germany's young people". KS79 (talk) 20:25, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

FDJ in West Germany

The article states The West German government treated the FDJ with suspicion because of its pro-communist orientation and of its links to East Germany. In 1951 the government of Konrad Adenauer banned the FDJ but doesn't state how widespread (or not) membership of the organization was in the Federal Republic (or West Berlin). 2.127.211.40 (talk) 14:38, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

FDJ Today

The article states that Between 1989 and the reunification of Germany in 1990, the organization lost much of its membership but doesn't give much indication of HOW much or what size the organization is today. The article also states In 2007, the organization was reported to be canvassing for new members which is an odd statement given that one would expect any organization (especially a youth organization) to be canvassing for new members pretty much all the time ? 2.127.211.40 (talk) 14:46, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

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Komsomol influence

Why is there no mention that this was closely patterned after Soviet Komsomol? -- AnonMoos (talk) 18:05, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

Early existence

The founders section mentions an existence for the organization, at least nominally, before World War 2 would begin (at least in Europe) by way of there being a chairman who was there starting in 1938. But there's no mention elsewhere in the article of its existence before the end of WW2, much less before WW2 began. So when exactly did its existence begin? Kelvinnkat (talk) 20:56, 10 October 2023 (UTC)