Talk:Francis Drake's circumnavigation

Latest comment: 2 months ago by 2603:3004:607:EF00:BEAE:C5FF:FEE0:F3B7 in topic Evidence of Drake's Estro on Oregon Coast

Mapuche cannibalism

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The article reads:

They withdrew but the fate of two captured are believed to have perished by ritual cannibalism.[13][32]

Yet it is not clear if this belief is that of the Drake's men, of later historians or someone else. Sietecolores (talk) 11:43, 30 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

The sources state they are taken from Francis Fletcher's account which is what a lot of sources are based upon. Eastfarthingan (talk) 17:23, 30 June 2020 (UTC)Reply
Satisfied with current changes. Eastfarthingan (talk) 10:32, 1 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
Please point me to the page from Fletcher. I don't find it in The World Encompassed, but maybe it's not on the pages which describe the Mocha Island incident. Thanks.MikeVdP (talk) 05:00, 12 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

English very aware of spices and their worth

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There is a comment within the very unfortunately short section on the Spices Isles, stating 'The values of these spices were virtually unknown to the English at this time' - this is a completely false statement to make, and the source it is attached to will need clarification as to if this author made such a claim. Every single European in late 16th century Europe was fully aware of the worth and value of Spices. This entire section requires some comprehensive revision please, because the entire premise of Drakes voyage was to find the Spice Isles as much as any other stated objective, and to break Portuguese monopolisation of the Spice Trade, as was Magellan-Elcano's mission which inadvertently achieved circumnavigation as a byproduct. Nürö G'DÄŸ MÄTË 21:53, 20 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Happy to look at this. Eastfarthingan (talk) 14:28, 13 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Edits of 97.120.93.30 that are being reverted

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Hello 97.120.93.30. Please respond on the various talk pages as you are politely being asked to do. As it currently stands, your editing is WP:DIS. Kind regards,Hu Nhu (talk) 04:46, 11 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

"Golden Hind" without an "e", for the original ship.

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The article about the original ship uses the spelling "Hind" for the original ship, and "Hinde" with an "e" for the replica. I have made the circumnavigation article consistent with the ship article. Also "Golden Hind" gets ten times more Google hits than "Golden Hinde". Polar Apposite (talk) 22:25, 16 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

Mocha Island details

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The overall description is right, but can we clarify details?

1. how many men went to get water? Several sources say two were ashore getting water when they were captured and ten were in the boat. That makes 12. Source for 11? Sariamento says two killed ashore plus 9 injured - is that the 11? Nuno de Silva says two ashore killed plus 10 injured.

2. several sources say "all" were injured - can we update to include that?

3. how many of the injured died? John Drake (second deposition) says 2 or 3 in the boat died of "all" injured. San Juan de Anton says two were killed (ashore?) and doesn't state about other deaths. Nuno de Silva says two ashore died plus 10 injured (in the boat): 1 of the 10 later died. Does the later death of Diego, attributed to this attack, get added in? MikeVdP (talk) 05:14, 12 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

Evidence of Drake's Estro on Oregon Coast

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The article reads "On 17 June, as Drake headed South, his crew found a protected cove and landed on the coast of what is now Northern California." However, there is significant evidence that Drake's Estro was Nehalem Bay. See

https://www.oregonencyclopedia.org/articles/neahkahnie_mountain/

and especially the book "Francis Drake In Nehalem Bay" by Garry Gitzen. 2603:3004:607:EF00:BEAE:C5FF:FEE0:F3B7 (talk) 18:31, 1 October 2024 (UTC)Reply