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Attendances
editCan somebody find a good source for the crowds at these games and add them to the article?216.52.207.101 (talk) 21:11, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
:Found them at fifa.com. HandsomeFella (talk) 21:29, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
Sorry, that was for the women's tournament. HandsomeFella (talk) 21:30, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
Interwikilinks
editHmm... No links or templates to "Football at the Summer Olympics" or even to "Football at the 2012 Summer Olympics". I think there should at least be the link to the latter one. Quite strange, you have to go through categories to get there. 85.217.44.72 (talk) 04:20, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
Merger proposal
editSee Talk:Football at the 2012 Summer Olympics – Women's tournament#Merger proposal. – hysteria18 (talk) 16:00, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
Separate Group & Knock-out Pages
editI was wondering if for the olympic tournments in both the mens and womens competitions like what has been done with events like the FIFA World Cup and UEFA Euro 2012 if we could have separate pages for each of the groups and also the knock-out stages to allow for extra details of team line ups and also team formations in each of the matches that are played. This would vastly, enrich the article I believe and provide an even better record of the events. I know some would say that this is only a sub standand tournments within the olympics but it is still a major international football tournments and I think they should be treated as much and I would like to hear your views on this. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by MOTORAL1987 (talk • contribs) 20:05, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
Proposed merger 2
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Recently, the following pages were created by user MOTORAL1987:
I think these pages are utterly pointless – I'm sorry, MOTORAL, no offence intended, and I hope you don't take it personally – but that's what I think. There's nothing that says that we can't have verbose descriptions (I assume rather short ones) of matches in the main articles for the tournaments. HandsomeFella (talk) 17:33, 28 June 2012 (UTC) For other major football tournments there have been seprate pages like Euro 2012 and FIFA World Cups ect for each of the groups and for the knockout phase and I noticed it has been done on the 1988 Olympic football page. The idea for the seprate pages is so full team line ups, formations, subs yellow and red cards could be displayed. It has been done in the past so why not for the olympics. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MOTORAL1987 (talk • contribs) 20:49, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
This merger discussion has been going on for about one month and the tournament has started. I counted eight in favor of maintaining the group pages with five in favor of the merger. How much longer will this continue, or can the discussion end now.--MorrisIV (talk) 12:51, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
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Matches
editFor some reason the first match is labelled "Match 3", and the third match is labelled "Match 1". I don't know why but I can't edit this.Suarez777 (talk) 09:17, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
Also, the semi-finals has mexico's game against japan twice, pretty sure that's innacurate — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:647:5483:3080:55FB:9220:810E:E698 (talk) 01:14, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
- Please don't edit them. If I remember correctly, match 3 was rescheduled so it starts earlier than was intended originally. But the numbering remains unchanged.
- HandsomeFella (talk) 15:22, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
Match reports
editAbout the match reports, I believe we only need one, and that's from the London 2012 official website. We have never used two before in the previous tournaments, such as the Euro 2012 and 2008 Olympics articles. Regarding the FIFA match reports, they should be used as references for the attendance, which User:Kante4 have added previously on the women's tournaments pages, but then was removed. Arbero (talk) 11:55, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
- I added the fifa.com match report as a reference for the attendance [1]. I think a reference is better than having two reports. Those refs will be seen also on every article those template is included. Kante4 (talk) 12:06, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
- If you could have one (official) match report supporting all info in the footballbox template, that would obviously be ideal, but the problem is that london2012.com doesn't mention attendance. I could do without the fifa.com source, but then there's always someone who says "Hey, we've got no source on the attendance". Could someone please make a phone call to the Olympics guys and ask them to put the attendance info in? ;-)
- Or we could just switch to the fifa.com source only, if it has all the info.
- Btw, that IP user making disruptive reverts is now blocked, at least for a while.
- HandsomeFella (talk) 13:52, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
- Well, I could settle for fifa.com as a source for the attendance specifically, but I think a "References" sedtion in the template is called for in that case. HandsomeFella (talk) 13:56, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
- I don't feel that this is my best area of expertise, at least regarding wikipedia, but I believe that there should be a way in which both the London2012.com and FIFA.com websites can be used. They don't have to both be the Match Report link, but both are highly valuable.--MorrisIV (talk) 14:09, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
- Ok, we seem to be able to reach an agreement.
- Can I summarize this as we go with the version indicated by Kante4 above, i.e. london2012.com is the official match report, and fifa.com is a complementary source on the attendance figure, but we add the "References" section to the noinclude part of the template, it's perfectly ok there, check the roster templates.
- HandsomeFella (talk) 14:30, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
- I like that.--MorrisIV (talk) 17:14, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
- Yep, like that too. ;) Kante4 (talk) 20:56, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
- I like that.--MorrisIV (talk) 17:14, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
Sorry for the late response, but brilliant then, looks like we have resolved this quite nicely then. I agree with HandsomeFella's point. Arbero (talk) 00:57, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
Knockout stage draw
editSorry to trouble you, but I have noticed a discrepancy between the quarter final draw here and on the Sky Sports website. On this page, the first quarter final at Old Trafford is between the winner of group D and the runner up of group C, whereas Sky Sports have this match as being between the winner of group A and the runner up of group B. Can anyone confirm which of these two is correct? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asnow87 (talk • contribs) 21:59, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
Lede
edit"It is the first major FIFA affiliated men's tournament to be held within the United Kingdom since the 1966 FIFA World Cup" - what about Euro 96? -- Arwel Parry (talk) 17:45, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
- I think the sentence should say "it is the first major FIFA-organised men's tournament", since Euro 96 was organised by UEFA. – PeeJay 23:21, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
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