Talk:Flexible electronics

Latest comment: 4 months ago by MaynardClark in topic Corporate players

Flexible Circuits? Flexible Electronics? Or both?

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Previously this term Flexible Circuit was used as a separate heading and there was some valuable content provided for the reader much of which is not missing. Recently the term "Flexible Electronics" has been substituted for flexible circuit. Can someone explain why?

The term flexible circuit or flex circuit (aka flexi circuits in the UK) is a much more common term having a history that goes back nearly 60 years or more. Much like the printed circuit, there have been several books and many book chapters written and numerous industry standards written on the topic of flexible circuits of which there are no less than 1/2 dozen structural variations, most of which cannot be considered flexible electronics.

In contrast, the term "flexible electronics" is a relatively new term focusing on the integration of active devices into flexible films and one identifiable book title "Flexible Electronics - Material and Applications" by W. Wong and A. Salleo

It is suggested that rather than confusing the reader by suggesting that flexible electronics are the same as flexible circuits, that two separate topics be set up one for flexible circuits and one for flexible electronics. These two topics can then be cross referenced to increase reader knowledge and understanding rather than curtail it.

As a reminder the purpose of Wikipedia is to inform and record history not to rewrite it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gnoetic (talkcontribs) 18:35, 21 February 2010 (UTC)Reply

  • Support - They are all flex or rigid-flex to me.  Flexible electronics is a totally new term to me.  They simply are designed for component placement or not.  I also added this to disambiguation.  It was there, but in a funny way as as a "polyimide printed circuit".  --  :- ) Don 07:19, 26 August 2012 (UTC)Reply
 
A flex circuit assembly connecting rigid integrated circuits (with rigid transistors).
 
A flexible display (is this electronic paper?)
 
A flexible display using flexible transistors
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a flexible organic LED

Flexible Electronics is normally meant to describe flex circuits with imbedded flexible components, such as printed resistors and such, ie; the entire assembly is flexible. OTOH, Flexible Circuits normally means that only the interconnection of those compoents (aka, the PCB/PWB or board, all or part) is flexible; the components are not. The distinctions border on nitpicky, and disagreement abounds but these are the terms I have used in the industry (computers, appliances, downhole oilfield equip) since the 70s. Ken (talk) 16:02, 20 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

I agree with Ken that many people draw a distinction between (in chronological order):
    • (a) "flex circuit" where only the insulator and conductors are flexible, and then later (rigid) integrated circuits, (rigid) LEDs, and other rigid components are attached to the flex circuit; vs.
    • (b) electronic paper -- microcapsules that change color in a flexible sheet (with flexible insulator and conductors); vs.
    • (c) flexible transistor, flexible LED, etc. somehow fabricated on a flexible sheet (with flexible insulator and conductors).
I think each of these categories are each notable enough to build separate articles about each one, as Gnoetic suggested. --DavidCary (talk) 21:16, 29 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

Flexible electronics vs. flexible circuit board

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As discussed before, I think this article should be renamed "flexible circuit boards" or something along the line. Flexible and printed electronics is a new area of research that would warrant its own article in my opinion. There are many new journals on the subject and "flexible and printed electronics" seems to be the commonly accepted name. 84.249.26.44 (talk) 12:30, 18 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

I agree that flexible circuit would be a better name than flexible electronics. Often, flexible circuits contain no electronics. I cannot agree with flexible circuit board. Although people do say that, a board is a hard stiff thing. A flexible board is a non-sequitur. However, moving a page involves a lot of work that the mover is expected to handle. See Wikipedia:Moving a page. Constant314 (talk) 14:29, 18 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Corporate players

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Who are the corporate players in these various technologies and applications, and what innovations are they developing, and what promises or challenges are found in each of those innovations? MaynardClark (talk) 15:24, 20 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

This is not a question and answer forum. See WP:NOTFORUM. Constant314 (talk) 15:43, 20 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
I ask(ed) (the question) why there is no (link to an) article on the topic of corporate players "in the space" of [[flexible electronics[[, or how that technology is developed and fed from institutional ciontexts (academic or private enterprise). Is there no benefit for illustrating the human sources of these developments? Three paragraphis in the history section of the main article have no citations to other Wikipedia or online or printed sources. OTOH, references to the IEEE publications and scientific conference on the topic is (potentially) illuminating, but those leads are in the links, not to the live internal Wikipedia links (which go only to the main IEEE article). MaynardClark (talk) 20:41, 20 August 2024 (UTC)Reply