Talk:Farmington, Maine

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I changed the wording in the opening paragraph from "University of Maine's Farmington campus" to just "University of Maine at Farmington," the university's official name. My reasoning is that the previous term seemed to imply that Farmington is a campus of a larger university, when in fact it's a free-standing university within the UMaine System. If no one objects.... JamesofMaine 20:25, 26 April 2006 (UTC)Reply

Beethoven, the Maine event

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Various IPs continue to suggest that Beethoven visited here. They give a source as a "Franklin County Chronicle". Given the population of Franklin county in the 1790s, I have my doubts such a paper existed. I also have never seen a reference of a visit by Beethoven to North America. I will continue to revert what appears to be vandalism by IP sockpuppets unless given further evidence. Did such a publication exist in the 1700s? Did Beethoven visit the North American continent? I am highly dubious of either. 78.26 (talk) 02:48, 24 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

Before i turned my focus to newspapers in the early u.s. i allways thought, Beethoven seldom left vienna. but as i referenced, in an early march 1794 edition of the Eastern Herald (wich exsistence is referenced e.g. here: http://www.genealogybank.com/gbnk/newspapers/explore/USA/Maine/ ) you can find a reference to an 'Franklin County Chronicle' article, wich said beethoven was. it is still dubious but worthy to put in an encyclopedian article (about farmington not about beethoven).85.178.184.199 (talk) 13:57, 24 July 2011 (UTC)Reply
OK, there was an Eastern Herald (published out of Portland, Maine from 1792 to 1802. It was a weekly publication. In March, 1794 it published on March 3rd and 10th, but not the 7th as you claim. I also could find no reference to Beethoven in this publication. That said, either we're getting somewhere, or this is one of the more elaborate hoaxes I've run across on Wikipedia. Either way, you are to be congratulated.... 78.26 (talk) 14:32, 24 July 2011 (UTC)Reply
More importantly, consensus has it that a simple visit by a famous person is not a "notable event". If he performed some notable concert here great, talk about that, but visiting is not a notable event. See: (WP:USCITY) Dkriegls (talk) 23:19, 26 July 2011 (UTC)Reply
Sorry, but i disagree. The Notabilty of any event is related to the importance of the place, since an open encyclopedia is made by the users and for the users even in nowhere. so if the pope visits new york its not notable since new york is visited by many important people. but if the pope is visiting the moon, its maybe notable. 85.179.65.13 (talk) 01:13, 1 August 2011 (UTC)Reply
This is not an "open encyclopedia" whatever that is. It is an encyclopedia written by many. If you want to learn about how Wikipedia works, you can start here Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not. Mainly, Wikipedia is not a newspaper about local events. Wikipedia:Notability has a specific definition. There is a lot of encyclopedic information about Farmington that is not written yet, and I encorage you to research it and add it to the page. It is fun time (even with debates like this) :) Dkriegls (talk) 17:54, 5 August 2011 (UTC)Reply

Fixed the population

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Population was fixed. It had some bizarre number, 7000 something or other, and the page states that it uses the 2010 census data.

Reference: official data

Perhaps the other number represented the greater Farmington area? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.209.78.147 (talk) 16:01, 9 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

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Deleted Prophecy Nonsense

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I deleted the nonsensical gobbledeygook about Quaker prophecies. Wikipedia isn't the place for bird-brained idiocy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.122.8.120 (talk) 16:09, 24 February 2010 (UTC)Reply

Restored. It is a notable aspect of the town's history, receiving media coverage from around the world. Harry the Dog WOOF 10:55, 25 February 2010 (UTC)Reply
utter, complete nonsense. It never received any media coverage and nobody cares. The inclusion of the material smacks of self promotion by fringe group loonies. Stop vandalizing the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.236.156.167 (talk) 16:19, 2 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
http://www.downeast.com/notes-from-upstream/2009/june/farmington-jerusalem
http://strangemaine.blogspot.com/2006_04_01_archive.html
Harry the Dog WOOF 13:17, 3 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

The "Prophecy" again

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It is part of local history well-covered in the local press and beyond. A billboard announcing the prophecy was in a prominent spot for a long time. No point in trying to airbrush it out as if it wasn't part of the town's history (although some wish it weren't). It is entirely appropriate for an article on the town. Harry the Dog WOOF 11:38, 15 April 2012 (UTC)Reply
This isn't a matter of what anyone believes or how popular something is in town. I am simply going by WP:Notability. Find a major media source discussing this in a manner that meets WP:Notability and I am perfectly fine adding it back in. Cheers, Dkriegls (talk) 19:03, 15 April 2012 (UTC)Reply
It doesn't have to be a major media source. Local media is fine for something that is locally notable and included in an article about that locality. Harry the Dog WOOF 20:34, 15 April 2012 (UTC)Reply
Well, it's not that simple (see: Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources), but yes many local/regional news sources can be reliable sources. The local source often falls short for either being Self Published or lacking Independence from the subject. But get me a source first and lets discuss. :) Dkriegls (talk) 02:02, 16 April 2012 (UTC)Reply
Here's one. One reliable source is all that's needed. Sun Journal,
Nice find, but this citation is about Kuenning and her work. It does not constitute a notable fact about the town. The best road would be to try and create an article for Licia Kuenning. If that passes WP:Notability, then her prophecy might merit mention in on the town's page. The new page patrol might not consider the above citation notable, but that is where you should try. Dkriegls (talk) 19:02, 1 May 2012 (UTC)Reply
Oh come on. It's all about the prophecy, and how it impacted the town. It is a notable fact about the town's history. The local radio stations covered it, the local newspapers covered it, people in the town talked about it. There was a giant billboard. It is simply a quirky part of the town's history that deserves a mention, in the same way that we mention other facts about the town. It is reliably cited and should go back in. Harry the Dog WOOF 08:10, 2 May 2012 (UTC)Reply
Like I said, I am not against inclusion if an article about Licia Kuenning passes WP:Notability with the New Article patrol. It doesn't take much, you already have the citation. But a prophecy by a Non-notable person just doesn't meet inclusion criterion. Dkriegls (talk) 08:30, 2 May 2012 (UTC)Reply
We include lots of details in articles that do not relate to notable people. If it's a verfiable, cited historical fact, the weight is for inclusion rather than not, even if none of the people involved were notable in and of themselves. We don't list any notable members of the Canibas tribe when we say, "The area was once territory of the Canibas tribe of Abenaki Indians." it is simply verifieable historical fact. Harry the Dog WOOF 10:12, 2 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

\Right, but the sun journal link does not meet WP:Notability for the town. Specifically: "Significant coverage means that sources address the subject directly in detail". The article talks about mention of the town in a self-published non-notable book, that is not direct mention of this as notable to the town. If I were to self publish a book about New York, it would not get mentioned in the New York city article. At best this would constitution mention in a "Culture" section of the city, but only if the author or book had its own WP article, proving independent notability. You make reference to other citations, but no other references have been presented here so we cannot make inclusion judgments based on them. Dkriegls (talk) 21:43, 2 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

What you are failing to see is that this in not about a self=published book. It is about something that is part of the town's history. Dozens of people came out to the park on 6.6. It was a talking point in the town, and deserves a mention. References are harder to find six years later, but this event did receive significant local coverage, which you agree is all that's needed, and one reference (especially one that mentions that coverage) is all that's needed. You are demanding more that one for any of the other historical facts mentioned in the article. Harry the Dog WOOF 04:53, 3 May 2012 (UTC)Reply
Sorry, there was a miscommunication. Your link above jumped to the end of the article on page B2 which only references the book and the towns role in the book. I thought the page navigation at the top right was the only navigation and that the beginning of the article and all of page B1 was missing. I see this a lot with newspaper scans and didn't think much of it. Then I realized you were making reference to more of the article in you above post. So after some frustrating page turning, I realized there was a side scroll. There is plenty in the beginning of the article to make mention here. I apologize again, I imagine that was frustrating for you, but I was working of only the last part of the article. I took the liberty of adding it back in and adding your new reference.Dkriegls (talk) 05:30, 3 May 2012 (UTC)Reply
No problem. Thanks for that. You must have wondered what I was going on about since you didn't see the whole article! Harry the Dog WOOF 12:33, 3 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

Vandalism?

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I noticed something that might be vandalism. Could someone please check?

At Farmington,_Maine#Prophecy the link to Licia Kuenning (formerly Lisa Bieberman) goes to Timothy Leary#Psychedelic experiments and experiences, impying thartthe prophesy was a result of drug use, not religious belief.

Also, are any of these suitable references for that section?

2600:1700:D0A0:21B0:34A3:8C98:350B:62D1 (talk) 06:42, 6 July 2022 (UTC)Reply