Talk:Faculty of Electrical Engineering and Computing, University of Zagreb

Naming issue

Copied from User talk:Dijxtra and User talk:Storkk

Hi, would you reconsider the tag on Faculty of Electrical Engineering and Computing since I expanded it a bit (and will expand it more) and I think now the article is to big to be merged... --Dijxtra 13:14, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi. Please respond on my talk page, using :'s under your previous comment. Anyway, in regards to the {{merge}} tag, now that you have expanded the article a bit, I don't mind it too much. It would be nice to see why it is considered notable: how many students go there; more famous/important alumni; etc. . I do, however, strongly object to its title. There are probably thousands of departments and faculties in various universities with exactly the same title. See UC Berkeley College of Engineering -- the title is very specific (and that's an article about a whole group of departments, none of which have their own article). Thanks for having discussed with me before removing the tag outright! --Storkk 13:26, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Also please note EECS --Storkk 13:27, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes, of course, I will expand the article with information such as number of students as soon as I find relevant sources. In it's current form the article probably wouldn't survive AfD because notability isn't established, but I'm working on sourcing out information (as a student of the faculty, I know that it has at least 3500 students and is the best Electrical Engineering/Computer science faculty in the region which makes it notable, but I know I'm no reference ;-) ).

Regarding the title, I figured we could move the article when the need arises... but if you strongly object, I'll move it. Is Faculty of Electrical Engineering and Computing (Zagreb) OK? BTW, I always prefer discussing over making unilateral removals of tags. --Dijxtra 14:02, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Hm, on the other hand, check this out: [1]. On first 3 pages, every single link is about the Zagreb faculty... --Dijxtra 14:11, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

For consistency in WP, I believe the University name comes before the faculty, which would make it something like University of Zagreb Faculty of Electrical Engineering and Computing which is horribly long. It might be best if the University has some kind of 2 or 3 letter abbreviation that it actually uses (thus, "UC Berkeley ..." for sub-colleges, but "University of California at Berkeley" for the main page), something like "SuZ Faculty ..." or "UZ", whatever the school uses. I do feel quite strongly that Faculty of Electrical Engineering and Computing should not point to a faculty of the University of Zagreb, even if there are no conflicts yet. Thanks for your input, --Storkk 14:12, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

You may have a point with your Google search. I'll leave the title up to your discretion. If you leave it as it is, please have a disambiguation {{For}}-type tag that points to EECS or something similar. Since this discussion doesnt pertain to the merge tags anymore (but to naming), i'll remove them now. --Storkk 14:16, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Well, yes, that's why I named the article this way, since we just don't have any abbreviation for University of Zagreb. And the name you suggested is just too long... so, I'll keep it as it is. I added the {{for}} tag, as you requested. Thanks for your suggestions, it's been enjoyable to work with you. --Dijxtra 14:31, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Hm...more,more,more

I think we should expand this article with some pictures of the faculty itself, outside pictures of the buildings, etc. In addition, we should write something about every department, like: memebers, fields of study, etc. Anyone interested? I'm up for it. (we should also ask for permission from the fer.hr webmaster --- is that necessary?) Ivan Ivanković 13:25, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Inaccurate article

For instance, the reference #1 (Venue of ConTEL 2007) does not state the same numbers as are in the Wikipedia article. There are also a few other inaccuracies which makes this whole article outdated. I suggest either updating it with current information or merging it with some other article —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.141.126.113 (talk) 20:06, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 07:30, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Not moved ≈ Chamal ^talk ¤ 11:48, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

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University of Zagreb Faculty of Electrical Engineering and Computing → Faculty of Electrical Engineering and Computing — Requesting a revert to the previous title. Per the earlier discussion on the article discussion page, the aforementioned name "Faculty of Electrical Engineering and Computing" is vastly predominantly present online in reference to this specific institution (most others use "Computer Science", while FER uses "Computing"). The current title is unwieldy and far too long, and the article already has disambiguation links at the beginning. 89.164.206.129 (talk) 21:03, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Survey

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.

• Oppose No fine as is "Faculty of Electrical Engineering and Computing" we need to indicate that it is this university's faculty Weaponbb7 (talk) 02:57, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose Couldn't anywhere have a Faculty of Electrical Engineering and Computing? Skinsmoke (talk) 02:06, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose I agree with the proposer that the full name is very long and unwieldy, but it still doesn't make sense to pollute the common namespace on the English Wikipedia with the shorter title. Comparable examples could be Stanford University School of Engineering, University of Pennsylvania School of Engineering and Applied Science, RWTH Aachen Faculty of Electrical Engineering and Information Technology - they all have universities in the titles, so that they are clearly distinguished. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 11:17, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Discussion

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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.