Talk:Exonumia

Merge Token (numismatics) and Token coins

I've just replaced the merge tag on Token coins. The two articles seem essentially to duplicate information, so it would be helpful to get feedback from other users regarding the proposed merge. Humansdorpie 14:29, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

I don't think merging is a good idea. Tokens are a very large and important subset of exonumia, and are definitely worthy of a separate article. --Gene_poole 05:03, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Complementary currencies

Are complementary currencies like LETS under the domain of exonumia? - N1h1l 01:21, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't see how: virtual money is physically most un-coin-like Fastifex 09:55, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

From Numismatics: "While numismatists are often characterized as studying coins, the discipline also includes the study of banknotes, stock certificates, medals, medallions, and token coins (also referred to as exonumia)." This would seem to imply that exonumia covers bank notes and stock certificates; further, the numismatics template lists Cheques and Credit cards under exonumia. If those are, then I can only assume LETS is as well (as it is a system of credit, maintained through checks or IOUs). Is the numismatics template incorrect? - N1h1l 13:58, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Numismatics extends beyond coins to paper money because money is essentially defined by its value, so banknotes are simply another physical form of legal tender, younger then coins; exonumia however are not defined by value but by their physical resemblance to coins, using minting techniques; paper which isn't even legal tender and printed, not minted, belongs in a separate category. Fastifex 16:54, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

So the numismatics template is wrong? - N1h1l 18:51, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Getting intrigued and realizing our page wasn't sourced, I googled and found the answer is yes AND no; see the revised text; how to adapt the template is another matter Fastifex 08:22, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

I'll fix the template, thnx :) Joe I 08:43, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Stubs

Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/2006/November Two new numismatic stubs have been proposed so far, at the linked WikiProject. Feel free to join the discussion. --JAYMEDINC 20:53, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Paranumismatica

I don't think the term "paranumismatica" is used very often, even in British English. Google throws a fair number of hits for exonumia in place of paranumismatica. And I must say, I've always used exonumia and I use British English. However, I've found this curious article defining the term[1], so I suppose it would be a good idea to mention its etymology it in the article. -- Chris B • talk 13:16, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

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I agree, I do not think that “paranumismatica" is used very often. I like the various names because they show how fuzzy the lines are between distinctions in this field of study and collection. The definition of, “alongside of currency” seems like a more narrowly focused definition than “anything coin-like but not a coin.” Stocks, notes, cardboard chits, rectangle wooden nickels, gift cards all fall more neatly with the definition of ‘alongside of currency.’ One the other hand, medals, geocaching ‘coins’ post office tags, quack Galvanic batteries are more closely aligned with ‘coin like objects that are not coins.’

Tokens however are not just “Good For” items. Tokens may have a value indicated on them but they could also just advertise. Hard times tokens and CWTs did not have to indicate a value on the item, in part because they were in the shape of the contemporary “cent.” The comptroller of the US currency is somehow involved with the monitoring of “gift cards.” Gift Cards, phone cards, mp3 cards, European train cards are more closely related to commerce like ‘along side’ of currency.
Even the “modified” definition – that it was previously actual currency, because there are countermarks on Hard times tokens, or love comments inscribed on Merchant tokens. Actually ‘modified’ takes into account the original purpose as well as what was done to the item. Much of this is irrelevant because generally exonumists are interested in all kinds of these items regardless of overlapping definitions. Hence organizations like the Token and Medal society (TAMS). Some collectors focus on one from each state, or specific states and counties, Others focus on collections of types of items. The emphasis for me is the question, “What do you like to study and collect?” It is nice to have ones options open.
Houldieson (talk) 16:41, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Is it true that Exonumia is the study of coin like objects? It seems like the studying of numismatica or exonumia is just that. The studying of those objects. The opening Wikipedia statement that Exonumia is the study of these objects seems incorrect. Exonumia are the actual numismatic items, (other than coins or paper money) which are studied or collected.

Exonumist

Since wikipedia has [Category:Numismatists], could it also have a category for notable Exonumists? Or are all exonumists considered to be numismatists? --JAYMEDINC (talk) 21:40, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Entertainment

What about Chuck E. Cheese tokens? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.218.12.31 (talk) 03:35, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes Chuck E. Cheese tokens are exonumia. They are are like amusement and gaming tokens. User:Houldieson Feb 19th 2009

What about Tax `Tokens?

Know the State of Arizona issued Tax tokens for payment of State retail Taxes. Thannks!EDSONNTESLATSWIFTSR (talk) 16:15, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Sales Tax Tokens have an interesting history. http://www.taxtoken.org/faq.htm is the website for American Sales Tax society. It is fascinating how many states implemented them. User:Houldieson 2:22, 13 December 2009

What is the name used to describe a "key collector", please?

If a person that collects medals is a 'medalist', isn't there any specified name which would describe the practice of collecting keys?? Afterall, it is not 'clavistelia' xD. And, would it be considered also a type of Exonumia? Please, I need to know :) --186.204.78.190 (talk) 04:56, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Note on "unique materials" section

It is mentioned that some tokens may be "hard rubber or vulcanite," but "vulcanite" should not link to the natural mineral vulcanite (a very rare mineral not at all related to the rubber material). The link should perhaps instead point to "ebonite" which is the material discussed here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.185.169.73 (talk) 03:40, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

I've coins to sell

Link me 207.204.98.10 (talk) 17:25, 13 February 2024 (UTC)