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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: no consensus. While the responses both for and against are almost tied in number, both sides have valid arguments and no consensus was found. As for undiscussed moves, the original title here was Ernie Johnson, Jr., which was then moved to the current title to remove the comma, then a move to Ernie Johnson (sportscaster) was reverted in 2017. From what I can tell, the current title has always been the title on Wikipedia, unless there is missing history. (closed by non-admin page mover) ASUKITE14:18, 28 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Support move per nom. He's commonly known as Ernie Johnson without the suffix, and has a reasonable claim for PDAB between the two. O.N.R.(talk)16:31, 12 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
"Undiscussed move" comment Regarding the nom referring to an "undiscussed move", it seems to have been moved to Ernie Johnson Jr. in 2017.[1] That seems long enough to have "Jr." be considered the last stable version.—Bagumba (talk) 06:21, 19 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Oppose Parenthetical dab is the least preferred per WP:PARENDIS, used ... when none of the other solutions lead to an optimal article title. Per WP:NATDIS, natural disambiguation is not intended to be the "most common" name: ... albeit not as commonly as the preferred-but-ambiguous title, is sometimes preferred. However, "Ernie Johnson Jr." is sometimes used by sources: "When Charles Barkley looks at you and says those words, you stiffen ... and right now, Ernie Johnson Jr. is stiffer than Shawn Bradley." (ESPN), "Ernie Johnson Jr. never thought he would enter the family business." (The Athletic), "Former WSB-TV reporter and current NBA on TNT host Ernie Johnson Jr. was honored in Athens earlier this week." (WSB-TV). His father, Ernie Johnson (pitcher), was also a broadcaster, so Ernie Johnson (sportscaster) is still ambiguous and an incomplete disambiguation.—Bagumba (talk) 07:16, 19 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Support I've never heard him called Jr. before when I've seen him on TV. Also, I've never really been a big fan of the suffix proliferation on this site. This guy is not referred to as Jr. à la Ken Griffey Jr. It's misleading to future generations who won't know the difference and will actually think he was called "Ernie Johnson Jr." I don't think we should add the Jr. just to differentiate him from others. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 23:51, 19 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Comment There are examples of both versions being used on television, such as: Ernie Johnson Jr. here and here and Ernie Johnson here and here. In print, his autobiography (which appears in one of the above clips) uses the "Jr." Amazon. Dmoore5556 (talk) 02:53, 20 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
