Talk:Electric guitar

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No "Headstock" subsection?

I propose the writing of a subsection underneath "Construction" titled "Headstock". Why should there be "Bridge and tailpiece systems", "Pickups", and "Guitar necks", but no "Headstock"?
You could write in a variety of information. You could include the straight design of the classic Fender headstocks, the backwards-leaning Gibson headstocks now popular on most guitars, the method of making the headstock from a separate piece of wood from the neck (usually wedged in under the fretboard at the nut), and even the making of headless guitars and their brands such as the famous Steinberger and the ever-more-popular contemporary brand Strandberg (which really should have an article of its own with all the notable artists playing them). You could describe the different methods of tuner installation, from 3x3, 4x2, inline, reverse-inline, and with extended-range guitars you have the 4x3, 3x4, 4x4, 6x2, etc. You could go more in-depth about tuner design. If you wanted to go exhaustively in-depth, you could even describe the friction/tuning issues that result from headstock designs that make the string come out of the nut at an angle.
My point is that there is a wide list of stuff to talk about on the topic, so there isn't really a reason not to have this section. — Tha†emoover†here (talk) 20:20, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Nonsense. Or, if you prefer, uninformed hooey. For instance, "the backwards-leaning Gibson headstocks now popular on most guitars" makes at least two specious claims, but that's another discussion entirely.

I've been fixing guitars for decades. My favorite designs involve some attempt to pull the strings across the nut perpendicularly (for instance most Fender and PRS, and Washburn BT). But to explain WHY would drag the article very close to explaining HOW, and only someone totally clueless could overlook WP:NOHOWTO.

As a compromise, here's how I'd handle it. First, provide a section break in Electric guitar (with maybe a brief metion of the fact that there are various headstock designs reflecting the designer's underlying intentions). Then go add the sub-topic to Electric guitar design, which is an article in desperate need of some in-depth explanation.
Weeb Dingle (talk) 14:26, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

"the first"

To summarize my previous comments (now archived):

• per WP, An electric guitar is a fretted stringed instrument with a neck and body
  • a lap steel has neither functional frets nor a neck
  • therefore, a pickup DOES NOT make a lap steel an "electric guitar"
• and an acoustic guitar with a stuck-on contact microphone IS NOT an "electric guitar"
• if there is a "first," it is most likely the Electro-Spanish Ken Roberts
  • but seeing as less than 50 total quantity were produced & sold between 1931-1937, a better criterion would likely be "first commercially successful electic guitar"

Give it a thought.
Weeb Dingle (talk) 04:54, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

why it's gone: "techniques" section

My vote is to entirely get rid of Electric guitar#Playing techniques.

• It is heavily HOWTO and has been marked as such since April 2018.
• It slyly swaps out "guitar technique" for "extended guitar technique."
• The only citation is a HENDRIX IS GOD tribute to controlled feedback.
• Using feedback as a wedge, it has stretched "technique" out of shape to include the Fernandes Sustainer and the Heet EBow, which swings the door wide to include any electronic device or recording trick as "a technique."

In sum, it's at best redundant with Category:Guitar performance techniques. After the brief intro section, the interested reader can head on over to Extended technique, so nothing is lost in the uncluttering.
Weeb Dingle (talk) 02:24, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

restorations to this page

For some reason, lowercase sigmabot III is targeting this Talk page, and (coincidentally, I suppose) squirrelling away my posts.

My understanding is that notable changes to an article are supposed to be backed up by a Talk discussion, and more-significant overhauls should be in fact preceded by opportunity for general discussion (so that the "group mind" might achieve some sort of consensus).

I attempt to explain why I'm making the sometimes substantial changes to Electric guitar. If no discussion ensues, a secondary benefit of an explanatory Talk post is establishing guidelines (albeit subject to change) that are specific to that article. So, should an editor view Electric guitar and decide to add the very sort of information that's actually been removed, the tacit "rules" can be explored in Talk and maybe revised.

This hasn't been working out so well. In as little as two months (or even less), the bot wanders in and duly hides away my rationale — and as well opportunity for discussion.

Bizarrely enough, the bot has time-and-again been leaving two ancient unsigned posts (for which "non sequitur" is an understatement), a 2010 review, and a 2016 "External links modified" notice, so it's not as though Sigmabot has demonstrated any rudimentary housekeeping skill.

I reverted some of the archivings, and may bring more back. Of course, even this is open to discussion and compromise… assuming, of course, this post isn't buried by the end of the month.
Weeb Dingle (talk) 03:45, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

first solid body electric guitar

Jamaican inventor named Hedley Jones - who BEAT Les Paul, Bigsby, Fender, AND Gibson Guitars to the solid wood body Spanish electric guitar with his "Automatic Guitar" in 1940! But he didn't stop there. His accomplishments also include possibly being the first guitar amp maker to exceed 100 watts, the first to invent Jamaican "sound system culture", and the first to produce a DOUBLE-NECK electric guitar — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:AA16:400:A1B2:8563:8F09:77C7 (talk) 20:53, 20 March 2020 (UTC)