Talk:Edward Oxford/Archive 1

Archive 1

Potential 'Popular Culture' Entry

For interest, though I do not strongly advocate its introduction to the article, the fictional 'Burton & Swinburne' series by Mark Hodder is set in an alternative time-line in which Oxford's attempt was successful, and the Albertian era (after political manipulations to keep Victoria's hated Hanoverian heir-presumptive off the throne) has seen a rise of steampunk or gaslamp-fantasy style alchemical magic and technology. Its initial volume The Strange Affair of Spring-Heeled Jack is centred around the recomplicated events of the assassination and investigations into Oxford and related matters. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.193.78.30 (talk) 13:50, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Citation needed

The following has been tagged as usourced since 22 May 2009. I am moving it here until it can be verified (and preferably copyedited):

At the time of the crime Victoria was pregnant and expecting her first child, so that the public was aware of the real danger the young queen faced from the assassination. Rumors arose about the actual nature of the attack. Oxford (who was a "potboy" in a tavern) probably was mentally ill, but his rooms were searched and there was "evidence" that suggested he was a member of a group who were against the government. This was not too unreal for the public, aware of the threats from chartism supporters, and also of other political radical groups that threatened the government, such as Arthur Thistlewood and his Cato Street Conspiracy group in 1820. But what was most curious was a letter the public called "the Hanover Letter". This proved to be written by Oxford but was supposedly signed by Ernest Augustus I of Hanover and Duke of Cumberland. Victoria's uncle (the fifth son of King George III, was made King of Hanover in 1837 upon the death of William IV of England and Hanover; Hanover had salic law, allowing only male rulers). If Victoria died without any heirs, Ernest would become King Ernest I of Great Britain. Ernest was also widely regarded as responsible for the murder of a valet in 1810 at Kensington Palace (a matter still in dispute - the valet, De Sellis, may have attacked Ernest and committed suicide). Though eventually discredited, for a while the Hanover Letter looked like a plot cooked up by an ambitious heir against the Queen.

Scolaire (talk) 22:02, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

More info

More in a new newspaper article, at http://www.birminghammail.net/news/top-stories/2012/06/03/birmingham-barman-tried-to-shoot-the-queen-97319-31104019/ Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:20, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

imaginary military society called "Young England"

• " intricate rules and proceedings of an imaginary military society called "Young England" (not to be confused with the later conservative political group of the same name)"

In 1840, the public generally knew that Edward Oxford claimed to be acting as a member of "Young England". If the 1840s political group of the same name Young England already existed, there seems to be some obvious connection, in the mind of the assassin at least. If the political group took on that name later, it seems like they must have been aware that people would assume some symbolic connection with the assassination attempt? -71.174.176.136 (talk) 16:55, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

The Gauntlet song.

Was this song written as i believe by this man. I have original music scores bound with 9 other songs as recorded in the Australian library online. Any ifo. ??. Phil Bear Xxx. (talk) 07:06, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

Original works.

I am researching some original vicorian books containing original score of his quantlet song. Phil Bear Xxx. (talk) 07:50, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

More on Australian life sources

I've changed some of the entry pertaining to Australia and my book in particular. The connection between Oxford and Freeman is well established: sources include FB Smith (cited), Home Office records recording the name (Suffolk) and date of sailing to Melbourne of his ship and the name under which he sailed; letters written in the same hand as Oxford's both from the ship and from Australia to Haydon; a handwritten note on the Haydon letters attributing them "Edward Oxford shot at Queen"; a doctoral thesis by Haydon's descendant detailing the connection; other extremely strong circumstantial evidence such as matters referred to in the letters, the first names of "Freeman's" parents on his death certificate, etc. I am happy to provide these to anyone who wishes to see them. (2015 - I've added a line about a new photograph I've found in government records in Australia of "Freeman" which is clearly the same person as Edward Oxford.)

I would appreciate direct contact before this section is changed back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jenny Sinclair (talk • contribs) 01:41, 26 February 2013 (UTC)