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Shouldn't Canadian charts be first column?

Latest comment: 14 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Because Drake is Canadian, and generally the first column(s) in discography charts sections are for those of the artist's country of origin. Andrewlp1991 (talk) 04:26, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Digital Gold Award

Latest comment: 13 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

http://riaa.com/newsitem.php?id=E1F0606A-44D2-6C0B-3F9E-0D7054BD112C


Universal Motown lyricists Lil Wayne and Drake racked up the Gold download awards in March. Three for Lil Wayne’s “6 Foot 7 Foot,” “Knockout” and “Right Above It” and two for Drake’s “Miss Me” and “Find Your Love.” Atlantic Records rapper and producer Lupe Fiasco additionally earned his second Gold download award for his latest single “The Show Must Go On” (2010). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jannisking (talk • contribs) 12:34, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from , 21 November 2011

Latest comment: 12 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Change the chart order in singles section from

|CAN

|AUS

|GER

|IRL

|UK

|US

|US R&B

|US Rap


To


|US

|US R&B

|US Rap

|CAN

|AUS ...

He is a dual citizen in the US and Canada, so the US can be placed first: http://www.rap-up.com/2011/11/19/drake-opens-up-about-rihanna-connection-with-nicki-minaj-chris-brown-fight/#more-104826

74.126.15.121 (talk) 18:46, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

  Not done, the current list has his country of origin then the rest in alphabetical order, I see no reason to make this US-centric--Jac16888 Talk 18:52, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Headlines

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Headlines is Gold in Canada reference link Please add! --79.199.27.43 (talk) 18:47, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

  Done by other users, thank you. Zidanie5 (talk) 14:32, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

"Take Care" is 2012?

Latest comment: 12 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

It might be good to have a note as to why the single "Take Care" is listed as 2012, when it initially charted in 2011. Hooperswim (talk) 02:20, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Drake discography

Latest comment: 10 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Drake discography's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "ARIA":

  • From ARIA Charts: "ARIA Charts - Gold and Platinum ARIA Accreditation Awards". Australian Recording Industry Association. Retrieved 16 October 2011.
  • From List of music recording certifications: "Australian Recording Industry Association". Australian Recording Industry Association. Retrieved 2008-06-02.
  • From Justin Bieber: "Justin Bieber AIRA Singles Certification". ARIA Charts. Australian Recording Industry Association. Archived from the original on 2010-02-08. Retrieved March 30, 2010.
  • From Beyoncé (album): "ARIA Australian Top 50 Albums Chart". ARIA Charts. December 23, 2013. Archived from the original on December 22, 2013. Retrieved December 21, 2013.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 21:18, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Drake discography

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I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Drake discography's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "riaa":

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 23:41, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

sales

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If You're Reading This It's Too Late has sold 495,000 copies. http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6473126/billboard-200-drake-surprise-album-debuts-at-no-1-fifty-shades -- Joseph Prasad (talk) 07:23, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

@Joseph Prasad Natasha whyte (talk) 19:52, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

If You're Reading This It's Too Late

Latest comment: 8 years ago32 comments6 people in discussion

The intro says four albums and three mixtapes; the tables say three albums and four mixtapes. WP itself defines hip-hop mixtapes as "full length albums released for free." Given that If You're Reading This It's Too Late is a commercial release, I suggest that it be treated as an album, whatever it has been called. 86.189.2.214 (talk) 15:23, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

I agree with this, nothing sold for full-price on iTunes and slated for a physical release should be labeled as a mistape. J-Rocnamsayin (talk) 19:55, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

That would be original research. Billboard is kinda weird, it contradicts itself by calling it both a mixtape and an album.

By every definition of the words "mixtape" and "album", assuming they are mutually exclusive (which is Wikipedia operates), If You're Reading This It's Too Late is an album. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justinw303 (talk • contribs) 21:05, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00V6XM7QU?qid=&ref_=tmm_acd_swatch_0&sr=

Oh, look, the album is for sale in CD form for $11.39 on Amazon.

http://consequenceofsound.net/2015/02/surprise-drake-releases-new-17-track-album-if-youre-reading-this-its-too-late/

Oh, another outlet calling it an album. I guess if there's debate on the issue, we could settle it by the simple fact that MIXTAPES are not released through major retailers (iTunes, Amazon and others later) by major record labels for $12 per copy, and they do not selling over 250,000 copies in their first week at those prices, while debuting at #1 on the Billboard 200. It literally does not matter what Drake wants to call it. If he called a piece of classical music, would the wikipedia page be changed to reflect that? Of course not, and it's equally absurd to bend the English language on his command by calling either of his two most recent projects "mixtapes". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justinw303 (talk • contribs) 21:17, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Justinw303, guess what. https://twitter.com/drake/status/566386350182891522 -- Joseph Prasad (talk) 21:21, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
Also, if you want to use the Consequence of Sound source... look, mixtape! http://consequenceofsound.net/2015/09/drake-and-futures-new-mixtape-what-a-time-to-be-alive/ -- Joseph Prasad (talk) 21:28, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

"It literally does not matter what Drake wants to call it. If he called a piece of classical music, would the wikipedia page be changed to reflect that? Of course not, and it's equally absurd to bend the English language on his command by calling either of his two most recent projects 'mixtapes'."

If Drake called it a coloring book, would you have it classified as one on this website? There are a couple key differences between a rap album and a rap mixtape, and with regards to IYRTITL, all fall in favor of it being a album. It. Does. Not. Matter. What. Drake. Calls. It. At all.

http://www.complex.com/music/2015/02/drake-surprise-project http://www.hotnewhiphop.com/stream-drake-s-surprise-mixtape-if-you-re-reading-this-it-s-too-late-news.13974.html You're basically using the logic of "it's an album cause I said so". It does matter what Drake calls it. He didn't call it classical music, nor would he, so you can't use that. -- Joseph Prasad (talk) 21:32, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Nominated for best RAP ALBUM by the Grammy's:

https://www.grammy.com/nominees?genre=28

Irrelevant. That's original research, not accepted. -- Joseph Prasad (talk) 21:37, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Research isn't accepted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justinw303 (talk • contribs) 21:37, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Orginal research. Two different things. Read WP:NOR. -- Joseph Prasad (talk) 21:39, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

"It does matter what Drake calls it. He didn't call it classical music, nor would he, so you can't use that."

Yes, I CAN use that. It's fair, right? Because your entire argument is that "It is this, because Drake said so." If you're are being logical consistent, which I would hope someone like you would strive to be, you would have to then accept it as a work of classical music if he said it was, right?

If the remaining members of the Beatles announced tomorrow that all of their albums were actually mixtapes, would you go back and change their discography?

Now, do you see how foolish you sounds by basing your entire argument on what Drake said? An artist's opinion is an opinion, it is not fact. The facts are that this is an album. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justinw303 (talk • contribs) 21:42, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

You're only brought Original Research, and one source. I've brought multiple sources that call it a mixtape. More: 1, 2, 3, 4, andBillboard says "Drake's fourth studio album, Views From the 6, is due out later this year. It was announced last July." Calling Views his fourth studio album, confirming IYRTITL is a mixtape.

Album sold 400,000+ plus copies in a week at $12 each, using original production, clearing any samples that may have been used so as not to catch any copywright issues, thus confirming IYRTITL is an album. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justinw303 (talk • contribs) 21:59, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Justinw303, what part of No. Original. Research., did you not understand? Tons of sources I've provided from reliable sources say otherwise. -- Joseph Prasad (talk) 22:02, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

What part of "water is wet" or "gravity pulls us toward the ground" do I need to cite before you accept it as true? Call it "original research" or whatever you please, but it does not change the fact the what I'm saying is factually correct and supported by decades of evidence.

According to WP:WPNOTRS: "Main page: Wikipedia:No original research § Primary, secondary and tertiary sources

Wikipedia articles should be based mainly on reliable secondary sources, i.e., a document or recording that relates or discusses information originally presented elsewhere.

Reputable tertiary sources, such as lower-level textbooks, almanacs, and encyclopedias, may be cited. However, although Wikipedia articles are tertiary sources, Wikipedia employs no systematic mechanism for fact checking or accuracy. Thus Wikipedia articles (or Wikipedia mirrors) are not reliable sources for any purpose. Because Wikipedia forbids original research, there is nothing reliable in it that isn't citable with something else." Do not cite Wikipedia as a source. You have to find many sources that say it's an album, then get consensus. -- Joseph Prasad (talk) 22:09, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

If that's the case, then fuck Wikipedia. I'll not donate another dollar to this place, if the standards are so fucked up that I'm being bullied into not correcting a glaring error.

I mean, really. You're basically saying "hey, we only operate by citing he-said-she-said, we don't want no primary sources, common knowledge, or logic over here! No research! Just links to rumors and bullshit."

You're not a primary source, that would mean it's arguably reliable. We cite things on Wikipedia, we must provide a source for everything, and you've provided almost nothing. -- Joseph Prasad (talk) 22:30, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Nothing except multiple sources, and decades of evidence in the usage and definition of the terms "album" and "mixtape". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justinw303 (talk • contribs) 22:33, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Where are these multiple sources? And it doesn't matter the other "decades of evidence" as music changes over time. -- Joseph Prasad (talk) 22:42, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

I've cited a Billboard article, and then there's these:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/drake-releases-surprise-album-youre-773103

http://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2015/09/21/drake-drops-his-second-surprise-album-of-the-year/#2715e4857a0b37e2fc963cc1

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/drake-releases-surprise-album/

The Billboard article said Views From the 6 was his fourth studio album, plus, Hollywood Reporter is unreliable and more like a tabloid. The sources I've placed here are music journalists. Not the press. -- Joseph Prasad (talk) 23:02, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Ah, yes, the classic "my sources are better than yours because I said so" argument. Get bent. It's an album. I guarantee, if you keep the project displayed as an album, it will be weeks without being changed back to mixtape. Because anyone who comes to this page, educated on the differences between albums and mixtapes, knows this is an album. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justinw303 (talk • contribs) 23:08, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Hip-Hop music journalist calling it an album:

http://allhiphop.com/2015/03/30/drakes-if-youre-reading-this-its-too-late-hits-platinum/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justinw303 (talk • contribs) 23:11, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

What about VIBE?

http://www.vibe.com/2015/08/drake-if-youre-reading-this-its-too-late-goes-platinum/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justinw303 (talk • contribs) 23:12, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

MTV states Drake said “Trust me, it’s just a mixtape, I’m still working on an album,” he said as the crowd at the Sprite-sponsered show cheered." So MTV also agrees with Drake, don't see why we can't. http://www.mtv.com/news/2080182/drake-if-yours-reading-this-mixtape-album-question/ Also, like I said, consensus, obvious due to the hidden note on the mixtape's page: "discuss on talk page before changing. this is how the artist and most secondary sources refer to this release. Please see WP:Verifiability and WP:No original research." -- Joseph Prasad (talk) 23:17, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

No original research! Right?

Look, it's clear that Drake doesn't want it called an album because it was a pretty weak album, and I understand him wanting to distance it from his other albums. But that simply does not change the facts here. Released by a record label. To a retailer. For the price of an album. Sold more than every other rap album last year. It's an album. Period, end of story. Just bow out already, the issue is settled. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.241.118.79 (talk) 23:27, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

That's original research. No what I was stating. Just because it was released by a record label for a price doesn't make it not an album. This isn't the 90s, this is 2016. Don't go by 90s definitions. -- Joseph Prasad (talk) 23:29, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Are you drunk? A 90's definition of a mixtape would be some songs you recorded from the radio. In 2016, a mixtape is a collection of songs you release for free. Free, because you either used popular beats that you don't have permission to profit from, or because you used some samples that you didn't want to legally clear for a commercial release. Or you just want to get your name out, and don't mind giving away your work for free. Your entire argument boils down to "Whatever Drake says, goes." That is a piss poor way to edit an encyclopedia. What Drake released fits every single definition of an album. Period. It doesn't matter if he calls it a mixtape or a platypus, it's still an album. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justinw303 (talk • contribs) 22:43, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Along with Drake calling it that, more sources call it a mixtape than album, and sources are superior to your logic. And drunk? I'm underage, I'd hope not. -- Joseph Prasad (talk) 01:03, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

There's something important in all of this that your young mind seems incapable of understanding. Some things in this world simply are what they are, and it doesn't matter one bit what someone says about them. A pile of snow is a pile of snow, no matter how many sources say it's actually a pile of dirt that has been painted white. I stick my hand in, it's cold and wet, so it's observably, objectively, snow. Nothing can change that fact. Drake's record label released a collection of songs to a major retailer, sold it for the price of an album (more than a lot of albums, actually), and it charted at the top of the Billboard 200, as well as receiving recognition as al album from the most esteemed music awards show in existence. The album contained original production, and one would likely be served with a piracy warning for downloading it illegally. Because of ALL of these factors, it's an album. I'm not sure why you ae so hell-bent in warping the meaning of two different words, based mainly on a factually incorrect statement from Drake. Integrity demands that you call a spade a spade, regardless of whether the guy holding the hand wants to call it a club so he can get a flush. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justinw303 (talk • contribs) 22:25, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Again, all your reasoning is original research, "Drake's record label released a collection of songs to a major retailer, sold it for the price of an album (more than a lot of albums, actually), and it charted at the top of the Billboard 200, as well as receiving recognition as al album from the most esteemed music awards show in existence." Charting on an album chart is irrelevant, because non-single songs can chart on a singles chart. Drake labels it a mixtape, and so do most sources. Either calling it a mixtape or calling Views From The 6 his fourth studio album - hence, not an album. We go by what the majority of sources say. And no, you can't just state "they'rewrong and I'm right". Sources, especially music journalists like Billboard and Slate Magazine have more credibility than you. And so does Aubrey "Drake" Graham since he's actually in the music business. -- Joseph Prasad (talk) 18:25, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Id someone told you the moon was made of cheese, you'd believe it. What a hopeless idiot. Hopefully you're not still a moron when you grow up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justinw303 (talk • contribs) 18:42, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

These sources are not just someone - they are reliable sources. You're the "someone" stating its an album, when it is not. -- Joseph Prasad (talk) 18:45, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
  • Regardless of who is right, continuing to revert each other as you add snide remarks here is simply disruptive and will end up getting you both blocked. Both of you have breached WP:3RR and even if you hadn't, you've each made over 10 reverts to the article in the past few days. One of you needs to take the moral highground and let the article remain in one set state (I'd recommend the version where If You're Reading This It's Too Late and What A Time To Be Alive are listed as mixtapes per WP:BRD) while discussion takes place. Ping other editors to this discussion so they can add their thoughts and findings so we can come to a consensus, because reverting the other user as soon as you log on only to leave a wall of text comprised of metaphors and soft insults here is getting you nowhere. Azealia911 talk 19:04, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

If Paul McCartney tweeted today that all the albums the Beatles released were actually mixtapes, would their entries be changed to reflect that? Of course not, because they are objectively albums. There is no difference whatsover between Abbey Road and IYRTITL, with regards to how they relased within the music business. The only thing different is the style of music, and the existence of the internet. Why should Wikipedia refuse to call something what it is, simply because Drake said so? Am I living in a crazy world where people are too stupid to realize this?

Another source that calls it an album: http://www.hotnewhiphop.com/drakes-iyrtitl-is-2015s-highest-selling-digital-album-through-q3-by-far-news.18097.html

And another: http://www.musictimes.com/articles/45181/20150811/drake-iyrtitl-million-selling-album-2015-views-from-the-6.htm

And another: http://hypetrak.com/2015/02/drakes-iyrtitl-reportedly-counts-toward-his-cash-money-contractual-obligation/

And another: http://www.complex.com/music/2015/04/young-thug-drake-your-mixtape-is-an-album

In addition to what I've already posted. Can't wait to see those sources attacked as being "not sources I like enough" by Joseph.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Justinw303 (talk • contribs) 20:14, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

'Back to Back' single

Isn't it a single??

Latest comment: 8 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

I doubt anybody would come here with the intent of seeing Drake Bell's discography. And there doesn't seem to be any other discography page with a similar link. Nikki Lee 1999 (talk) 20:52, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

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This single was not added

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Merge of multiple More Life songs

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change scorpion album sales to the proper amount (160,000 to 1.067 million) Iwantitmore (talk) 16:49, 20 July 2018 (UTC)


  Not done,The 1.067 million units is an accumulation of album sales, TEA units and SEA units. The column referenced here on the chart reflects album sales only, therefore it has been updated to 189,000. Dadondinah (talk) 00:47, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

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Drake's song "Nonstop", originally on the Other Charted Songs section, is released as a sixth single from the album "Scorpion" on July 31, 2018. 2601:86:4201:5E30:A8DA:6D07:A135:E2CC (talk) 21:56, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Waddie96 (talk) 07:27, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

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Drake's "Nonstop" peaked at #2 on the Billboard Rap Songs chart. 2601:86:4201:5E30:384F:1CA:1472:3D8 (talk) 08:10, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

  Done:--Lirim | Talk 08:21, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 October 2018

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Correcting the chart status for Drake's "Nonstop" single: CAN: 1 AUS: 5 FRA: 3 IRL: 5 NZ: 8 SWI: 10 UK: 4 US: 2 US R&B/Hip Hop: 2 US Rap: 2 2601:86:4201:5E30:84E9:C0E5:AA8D:2174 (talk) 01:52, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

I corrected the wrong ones.--Lirim | Talk 08:22, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

How Bout Now

Latest comment: 6 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

I don’t know how to do it properly yet without messing up the whole chart, so can someone please move How Bout Now (the proper name of the song;[1] listed here in the article as “How About Now”) to 2014, placing it under DnF by P Reign featuring Future and Drake? It’s a non-album single that was leaked by someone in Georgia according to Billboard.[2] Drake then released it himself as a non-album single. It was not released in 2015, and it was not on If You're Reading This It's Too Late.Trillfendi (talk) 23:43, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6296714/drake-releases-3-new-tracks-listen-here
  2. ^ https://www.billboard.com/articles/6289127/drake-leaked-song-how-about-now
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