Talk:Dick Vermeil
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POV
editThe article is fine until the second and third to last paragraphs which are speculative and have POV statements - unless there is a good reason for them to stay in, I think they ought to be removed. OlderBrother 12:58, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
- They are POV, Yank them out. WikiDon 15:53, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
- I've taken them out for the second time now, along with the details about his tenure at KC and as a head coach, which is repeated elsewhere in the article. OlderBrother 13:21, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
What the hell? Stop it. I'm not using POV. The Chiefs have one of the NFL's best offenses, fact. They also made improvements to their defense. Fact. I hardly see how that's POV.
How you put it, it's speculation. I always expect my team to do better than the year before, but I wouldn't expect my expectation to be worthy of inclusion in an encyclopaedia. If you can support it with quotes from informed sources, then put that in. If you have a source for his replacement as head coach, put that in. Without that, it is as worthless as me putting in I expect them to do badly if they get to the playoffs - who cares about my personal speculation? I asked before removing the points I considered POV and was supported - maybe ask before putting any potentially POV points back in.OlderBrother 13:38, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
- You need to cite some source stating their improved offense or show stats that show they improved. Mecu 13:48, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
And if someone could post a pick of Vermeil, preferably with his current team the Chiefs, that would be great.
Burroughsks88 21:27, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
UCLA
editCould someone add something about his coaching stint at UCLA before going to the NFL? He *did* win the Rose Bowl in 1975.'
There, I added stuff about his stint at UCLA, and did some much needed revamping. I would still like a picture of him with his current team the Chiefs, if someone could add that it would be great. Burroughsks88 02:09, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
Also, why the hell is he listed as the head coach of san jose state? please get this off.
Improper tone
editWhile doing some editing to the article, I found an issue that I don't feel comfortable correcting. The legacy section has several issues. It makes speculative comments about the future actions of an unspecified group of people. I'm sure the information could be restructured into better prose, but I don't feel like doing it. Also, several of the short paragraphs at the end of the section repeat information given higher in the article. I feel it's the weakest section of the article. Gentgeen (talk) 07:24, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Confusion with Movie
editThe '76 Eagles did not actually host open try outs. The whole first two paragraphs appear to be copied from the movie Invincible. The movie is not historically accurate. See the entries for Vince Papale and the movie itself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.228.183.123 (talk) 21:39, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- I've removed a ton of POV, original research, etc. from that section. Eagles 24/7 (C) 21:46, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Sandusky, really !!
edit- "The 2001 book autobiography Touched: The Jerry Sandusky Story (ISBN 9781582612706) includes a quote in a forward[5] from Vermeil: "He could very well be the Will Rogers of the coaching profession."[6] In 2011 former Penn State defensive coach Sandusky was arrested on 40 counts of child sexual abuse. A 2011 account about the book said..."
- Unless someone comes forward with a reasonable argument, I'm getting rid of this Sandusky reference in this article. Vermeil had nothing at all to do with Sandusky. 10stone5 (talk) 21:20, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
Oldest Super Bowl coach alive
editDick Vermeil is the oldest NFL head coach alive who won a Super Bowl. However, I believe that Raymond Berry is the oldest Super Bowl NFL head coach alive. 2601:244:4300:FAB0:93AA:FF68:C4DD:1715 (talk) 16:08, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
Oldest living Super Bowl head coach
editNo, it is not Raymond Berry who is the oldest living Super Bowl head coach. I forgot that it is actually Marv Levy. 2601:244:4300:FAB0:93AA:FF68:C4DD:1715 (talk) 16:27, 25 December 2023 (UTC)