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editCould we move this page to List of singles by Depeche Mode or List of Depeche Mode singles? --King of All the Franks 05:07, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
- I think it would be best if the entire discography were moved to a page like Depeche Mode discography, which appears to be fairly common for bands on Wikipedia. John5008 --- talk 05:21, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
- Should I move it now, and somebody else can add the rest of the discography? --King of All the Franks 05:25, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
- Done. If anyone sees any major problem created by my move, please fix it, but I think this is much better than separating the singles from the rest of the discography. John5008 --- talk 05:51, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
Excuse me; where is Route 66?
- The singles discography follows the band's UK releases; "Route 66" is a B-side. John5008 | talk to me 20:06, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
"I'm sorry but I'm just thinking of the right words to say. I know it doesn't sound the way I planned it to be. But if I had to walk the the world to make you fall for me; I promise you, I promise you I will." These are the lyrics to a song that I always thought was named "I Promise You I Will". Where I grew up in Los Angeles it was played on the radio frequently, however I cannot find any mention of it in the Depeche mode article or discography.
Route 66 and Personal Jesus are perhaps the two Depeche mode songs that most Americans know. Shouldn't it at least be mentioned in the article?
- First song you mention is "The Promise" by When in Rome, not Depeche Mode. Secondly, no, I don't believe "Route 66" should be necessarily mentioned, because it's a B-side (it was the B-side in the UK, and it was the B-side in the US), and is covered properly at "Behind the Wheel". The only way I can think of including it is if it charted separately of "Behind the Wheel" (see Dangerous vs. Personal Jesus). John5008 | talk to me 21:51, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
- Actually, "Route 66" could be (and will be, I'll take care of it in a second) in a note to the singles section...the version of "Behind the Wheel" that charted on the Billboard Hot 100 in the US was the "Megamix" of the two songs. John5008 | talk to me 21:58, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
re: Charts
editI'm going to sorta second the question below. Depeche Mode have scored a LOAD of number ones in Eastern Europe, so the singles chart isn't really a fair representation, how do we fix it? --IceflamePhoenix 20:25, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
- It depends. Are these countries where you only have to sell 20 copies to have a no.1 single? Hardly worth it if so. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.66.3.152 (talk) 22:52, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Chart and Sales info
editKudos to the article author. This info is valuable to researchers like myself. How does one go about finding sales and chart info? Do you pay a fee to Billboard and get the data? It doesn't seem to be on their website for free. Also, it seems next to impossible to find non-UK/US chart info on the web. I can find curret stats but nothing archived. Jackbox1971 23:08, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
- Just out of curiosity, why include the Aussie and New Zealand charts but not Germany, Canada, Norway, etc? I realize chart info is a pain to research so I am not going to complain (nice to have archive info on the charts you do have). I know, for example, that the band chart higher and more often in Denmark, Germany, and Spain than even in their homeland. Jackbox1971 01:59, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
- I believe the German and Swiss charts are on the German Wikipedia. John5008 | talk to me 03:56, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
- That's cool. I didn't have German chart info pre-People Are People so it was helpful. Still, I would love to see a comphrensive "one-stop" chart info article. It is weird how hard it is in this day and age to get what should be relatively straightforward info. I sometimes think record execs don't want anyone to know how well or how bad their artists are doing. Jackbox1971 02:38, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
- I believe the German and Swiss charts are on the German Wikipedia. John5008 | talk to me 03:56, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Live Hear Now releases
editI was wondering how the 50-date live recordings should be handled in the discography. I think it is unprecedented (I am not sure Pearl Jam released this many official live recordings) and a bit unweildy since if one is to do the entry, he or she would have to be careful to get the dates and set lists correct. I an considering it (as it is getting some attention in my book on the band) but I would prefer to wait until all 48 are released (48 because one show was cut short due to illness, and another was cancelled). Perhaps John, you could do a preliminary entry? Not to say that you can't do the whole shebang if you want, I just didn't want to seem lazy and give you all the work! :) Jackbox1971 01:49, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
The Remixes 86>98
editI've noticed that the discography page doesn't mention this 2-disc limited edition that was released the time as The Singles 86>98. It was an official release, but I don't remember if it was available as retail so I assume it was a club promo. Anyone knows more? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.200.209.84 (talk • contribs)
- It was a promo only release [1], and I assume for simplicity that for the time being, we're sticking with commercial releases. John5008 | talk to me 21:46, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Soundtracks?
editWas a decision made to include soundtracks such as Until the End of the World (soundtrack)? Шизомби 22:56, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
Tributes
editI've just noticed that on the Metallica discography page there is the list of tribute ablums. How bout we make one here as well? --77.105.63.158 14:13, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
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British singles record
editI believe Depeche Mode hold the record for the most British top 20/top 40 hits without having a number one (or even a top three song). I'll try to look this up and verify this: if I can provide a link as proof, surely this would be worth including on this page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.56.82.121 (talk) 23:15, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Reformatting
editI just reformatted the entire article and added references for all chart positions and certifications. I tried to make sure everything is correct, but if you find any mistakes or have any concerns give me a shout. -- Underneath-it-All 00:15, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Everyhit.com
editIn an attempt to stop the numerous recent reverts becoming a full-blown edit war can I just point Sunil060902 to Wikipedia's policy on on self-published sources: Self-published sources should never be used as third-party sources about living persons. Everyhit.com is a self-published source, if you read the website's about page you'll see that it is simply someone's pet project. The "record" itself is also of questionable notability: Why just the Top 40? Why not Top 10 or Top 75 etc? I suspect the record is set at Top 40 is because Everyhit only covers the Top 40. Despite numerous searches on google I can't seem to find a reference to the record anywhere else. --JD554 (talk) 10:40, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- OK, I understand about the policies on sources. No further mention of the website will be made to the opener, but having checked my copy of Guiness British Hit Singles I can confirm the original statement is true, to the best of my knowledge. No other act has had more Hits in the UK Top 40 Singles w/o a no. 1. best, Sunil060902 (talk) 11:33, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Would it be OK to quote British Hit Singles & Albums as a source?
- Rationale for Top 40?
- Compromise between Top 10s and Top 75s
- UK's premier TV chart shows did/do show Top 40 chart run-downs, not Top 75s
- Rationale for Top 40?
- best, Sunil060902 (talk) 15:40, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
I have reinstated my edit from way back, there is clearly more evidence that this is true than false, unless it can be proven this is not true I see no reason for it to be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.43.154.61 (talk) 19:03, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
- And I've removed it as being non-notable. Besides you need to provide a reliable source to verify the claim and show its notability. --JD554 (talk) 19:21, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Dreaming of Me
editIt's listed as not being on an album whereas it does appear on "The Singles 81>85" albeit some years after the single was released BUT if someone wants a Depeche album featuring that track then The Singles 81>85 is the one.
LewisR (talk) 18:53, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- My (German) vinyl copy of Speak & Spell which I had bought back then has Dreaming of me as third track on side 1. So it's strictyl speaking not a non-album tarck. --85.179.219.130 (talk) 23:04, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry to be pedantic, but I guess that's why we are here, right? "Dreaming of Me" is designated as a non-album single because it was not included on the original UK release of Speak and Spell, so when the single was released, it was not promoting an album, but rather was a stand-alone. Subsequent UK CD releases of the album do include Dreaming of Me as a "bonus track." But you are right to point out that continental and North American vinyl versions included it as a proper track. )But then you miss out on "I Sometimes Wish I Was Dead"!) Jackbox1971 (talk) 02:39, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
"Perfect" to be the single in the US instead of "Peace"
editThis should be mentioned in the discography as well because that's what's happened to all the other US-only releases, too...80.139.108.252 (talk) 12:26, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
- Are you sure? Why isn't it mentioned at www.depechemode.com? best, Sunil060902 (talk) 13:35, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
- I'm sure this is mentioned somewhere on that site but have a look at www.depmod.com. Fact is that "Peace" is an Europe-only release after all...80.139.94.149 (talk) 11:12, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
- Perfect image on depmod.com is of a promo-only release. It says "promotion - no" so I have contacted the depmod.com webmaster to correct it. best, Sunil060902 (talk) 13:26, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
- I'm sure this is mentioned somewhere on that site but have a look at www.depmod.com. Fact is that "Peace" is an Europe-only release after all...80.139.94.149 (talk) 11:12, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
Live in Barcelona DVD
editAny verifiable info regarding the release date for the Touring the Angel DVD? I've tried searching depechemode.com, Home, Amazon and Mutebank.co.uk and haven't found anything. best, Sunil060902 (talk) 17:03, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Singles for promotional use
editDue to the fact that "Peace" and even non-physical 7 inches like "Halo" are mentioned, what about the band's other promotional single releases? As far as I know there have been six of that kind of release:
- 1981 "I Sometimes Wish I Was Dead", UK, flexi-7" from Flexipop magazine
- 1984 "Told You So", Spain, 7"
- 1988 "I Want You Now", Japan, 3" CDS
- 1989 "Pleasure, Little Treasure (live)", France 7"+12"
- 1993 "One Caress", USA, CD
- 2006 "The Darkest Star", EU, 12"
Anyway, I believe, none of these charted anywhere... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.139.127.68 (talk) 14:54, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
- Interesting - do you have any official sources for these? I do know that One Caress is mentioned in their Biography. best, Sunil060902 (talk) 11:02, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
- Well, what about promo tapes then? Like this one - an interview and "Something To Do" (Metal Mix) . Garik 11 (talk) 11:25, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, I do not have an official source for them but take a look at http://www.depmod.com. I always thought that the existence of those releases were something like "common knowledge" within Depeche fans. The Spanish "Told You So"-7" for example is a very "sought after" item, I believe. But as I previously wrote none of these releases did chart so they are likely to be unknown to the listener by chance because they were neither played on the radio nor have been ever performed at TV shows... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.139.81.146 (talk) 16:52, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
- "Something to do (metal mix)" - would that come under "Remixes 04"? That's already in the article. I added "One Caress" - a video of that was definitely made. best, Sunil060902 (talk) 18:08, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- That's right, "One Caress" is the only promo-7" a video clip was made for. There is a performance of "Told You So" at the UK TV show "The Tube". By the way, all these releases can be found at the web page http://www.discogs.com/artist/Depeche+Mode which verifies the information given. I have found another two promotional singles there, the above mentioned is valid for them, too: no chart hit, no video clip available...
- 1992 "Death's Door", USA, flexi-7"
- 1993 "Rush", UK, 12" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.139.117.247 (talk) 02:50, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
- That's right, "One Caress" is the only promo-7" a video clip was made for. There is a performance of "Told You So" at the UK TV show "The Tube". By the way, all these releases can be found at the web page http://www.discogs.com/artist/Depeche+Mode which verifies the information given. I have found another two promotional singles there, the above mentioned is valid for them, too: no chart hit, no video clip available...
- Well, what about promo tapes then? Like this one - an interview and "Something To Do" (Metal Mix) . Garik 11 (talk) 11:25, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
B-Sides & Instrumentals 81>98 and other notable unofficial compilations
editIs is it worth mentioning the B-Sides & Instrumentals 81>98 album?
Details of the album can be found at Discogs.com; link here.
It's an unofficial release, but perhaps relevant enough to mention as a rare, though unofficial, compilation?
I'm sure there are other notable unofficial compilations out there; perhaps a section dedicated to unofficial releases is worth pursuing.
Thoughts?
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Live Videos?
editI'm curious why some songs are being listed as having official "live" videos (i.e. Enjoy the Silence and Personal Jesus 1993, I Feel Loved 2001). I understand videos like Condemnation (Live) and Should Be Higher (Live) - released on the Videos 86>98 release and Video Singles Collection, respectively... but ETS and PJ live from 1993 were released as videos where, besides the Devotional video (among many, many other songs) - why are they being listed separately here? I have seen no official I Feel Loved live video either - YouTube has nothing official, which in this day in age, just about disproves it ever existing. 50.173.78.170 (talk) 04:40, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
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Maxi-Single &/or BONG: a problem here
editIn the mid-'90s, I picked up on Depeche Mode via the "Personal Jesus"/"Dangerous" CD. I hadn't been a particular fan, but this quirky collection of versions and remixes prompted me to dig back through their catalogue.
There's quite a series of them. Appellations differ, but the most common appears to be "Compact Disc Maxi-Single." A majority share similar disc graphics, starting with a string of linked circles (usually silver, sometimes white) running down the left side. At least one interferes with the prim BONG numbers presented in this article: 28, Walking In My Shoes, says it's "CD BONG 28".
Has anyone made an effort to gather a list together?
Weeb Dingle (talk) 04:26, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
- The CD singles with linked circles to the left are re-releases of the original singles, they were released as part of the Singles Box sets, but were also available separately. See each single for details.
- As the Bong numbers didn’t start until Leave in Silence, the numbers on the re-releases will not match up with the Bong numbers. Kawayama (talk) 22:45, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
- This list, in this article, has existed for well over a year. 87Fan (talk) 23:21, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
Merge from Depeche Mode videography
editThe content on the discography page is generally more advanced than the content on the videography page—both the "music videos" and "video albums" sections are present on the discography page and get regularly updated, and the "DVD singles" and "tour projections" sections can be incorporated into pages of said singles and concert tours. Therefore, I suggest the videography page to be redirected to the main discography page. 8086-PC (talk) 12:20, 3 May 2024 (UTC)