Talk:Demographics of Romania
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Remaining Jews in Romania
editIs there a citation for the claim of "less than 6000" Jews in contemporary Romania? I believe there are somewhat more than that in Bucharest alone, and about 9000 in the country as a whole. -- Jmabel | Talk 06:42, Dec 31, 2004 (UTC)
- I found a citation that supports my estimate: Voudouris, Monica Săvulescu and Camil Fuchs, Jewish identity after the Second World War. Editura Hasefer, Bucharest, 1999, ISBN 9739235735, page 14, describes Romania, the Netherlands, and Curaçao as each having "nine to fourteen thousand" Jews. -- Jmabel | Talk 07:29, Dec 31, 2004 (UTC)
- According to the 2002 census, 5785 people declared themselves "Jews" and only 951 of them had Yidish as maternal tongue. Bogdan | Talk 10:11, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Interesting. Was that on a question about religion or ethnicity? -- Jmabel | Talk 20:36, Dec 31, 2004 (UTC)
- Ethnicity. Bogdan | Talk 04:34, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Fascinating. Surprising. I wonder if that means that a third of Romania's Jews have left (or died: a lot of them are old) in 5 years; that Voudouris and Fuchs (and a few other sources I've seen) had their numbers wrong; or if people who report themselves a Jews for some purposes say something different to the census-taker.
- Am I right in guessing that you need to give the census a single answer? So my friend Sasha, with a Romanian father and a Russian Jewish mother has to tell the census taker that he is either Jewish or Romanian? -- Jmabel | Talk 07:50, Jan 1, 2005 (UTC)
- Yes, one single answer. There are also 6057 Jews "by religion" and 4713 Jews both "by religion" and "by ethnicity". (the results can be found here) So that makes 7129 Jews by religion or ethnicity. Bogdan | Talk 13:04, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Ethnicity. Bogdan | Talk 04:34, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Interesting. Was that on a question about religion or ethnicity? -- Jmabel | Talk 20:36, Dec 31, 2004 (UTC)
Uncited change of numbers
edit[1] "moved" another 5% of the people to the cities without providing citation. Does someone have one? - Jmabel | Talk 01:12, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
- Encarta gives 54%-46% as a 2003 estimate. - Jmabel | Talk
More recently, the urban-rural ratio was changed. Neither number seems cited. Does someone have a citation? - Jmabel | Talk 19:23, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
New data available
editOn the website of the Romanian National Statistic Institute www.insse.ro new data is available (July 1st, 2004). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 193.22.173.10 (talk) 12:46, 9 January 2007 (UTC).
Population Evolution
editThere are two sources given for the evolution of Romania's population. In the case of the first source, it is specified that the first value (8.600.000 in 1859) is for "Wallachia and Moldavia without Bessarabia, Bukovina, and Transylvania". However, I see no proof for such a statement. From what I can tell, the numbers given for all the years represent the population living at the time on the teritory encompassing the modern state of Romania, regardless of the borders existing at the time. As such, the 1859 numbers must be for Wallachia and Moldova, plus the so called "Greater Transylvania", for lack of a better word (all teritories aquired from Austria-Hungary after WW1, except for northern Bukovina). If nobody objects, in a few days I will correct that entry. I will basically specify that the first site describes the population evolution on the current teritory of Romania, regardless of whether a particular region was at the time included in Romania or not, while the second site gives the numbers for the population living in an actual Romanian state (or states for 1844), the borders of which did not coincide until 1945 with the borders of modern Romania. This would explain the different values given by the two sources for the pre WW2 period. Bogmih 20:03, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
somebldy please use this link
edit[2] to create images about the population of counties and for immigrant/emigrant charts. Nergaal (talk) 04:10, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
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Population of Romania according to ethnic group
editI think that there is a mistake in the table "Population of Romania according to ethnic group ". I don't think that there are over 20.000 Vampires in Romania :). I personnaly didn't find the documents that support that figure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.114.41.11 (talk) 20:32, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
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Eastern Romance language
editSo the article claims that Romanians has more speakers than Italian? --2.245.104.160 (talk) 22:58, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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Surge in 1912-1930
editNoone mentions this drastic change in population. What happened there? Was there some area annexed or just massively higher birth rates? --Trickstar (talk) 17:46, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
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Orphaned references in Demographics of Romania
editI check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Demographics of Romania's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "CensusRef":
- From Romani people in Romania: Unofficial: 850.000 name="Unofficial"> "Romanian 2011 census" (PDF) (in Romanian). www.edrc.ro. Retrieved 2011-12-10.
- From Romania: "Romanian 2011 census (final results)" (PDF) (in Romanian). INSSE. Archived from the original (PDF) on 17 July 2013. Retrieved 28 August 2012.
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Reference named "insse3":
- From Hungarians in Romania: ""Comunicat de presă privind rezultatele definitive ale Recensământului Populației și Locuințelor – 2011"" (PDF). Recensamantromania.ro (in Romanian). Retrieved 10 July 2013.
- From Macedonians of Romania: "Rezultatele finale ale Recensământului din 2011 - Tab8. Populaţia stabilă după etnie – judeţe, municipii, oraşe, comune" (in Romanian). National Institute of Statistics (Romania). 5 July 2013. Retrieved 18 December 2013.
- From Hungarians: (in Romanian) "Comunicat de presă privind rezultatele definitive ale Recensământului Populaţiei şi Locuinţelor – 2011", at the 2011 Romanian census site; accessed 11 July 2013
- From Ukrainians of Romania: (in Romanian) "Comunicat de presă privind rezultatele provizorii ale Recensământului Populaţiei şi Locuinţelor – 2011", at the 2011 census site; accessed February 2, 2012.
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 09:04, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
Removing of links
editMB, please stop removing important links to Romania and other countries. I understand that the linking of countries goes under a policy and that they should be reduced in some cases, but to remove all links to Romania to articles such as this one or Bucharest (the Romanian capital!) makes no sense. Super Ψ Dro 09:46, 2 March 2021 (UTC) I agree, I am getting tired to reput some...(KIENGIR (talk) 15:17, 3 March 2021 (UTC))
Extra 800k people in 2023
editWhat is the source for increasing the population to 19.800.000 people? The 2022 census gives a figure of 19 million. https://www.recensamantromania.ro/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Tabel-1.01.xls
Religion
editThe section on religion gives completely different percentages than the page Religion in Romania. Since there is no source for the claims made here, and the other page is well sourced, I would suggest to use the numbers from the 2021 partial census, as in the main article. -2001:A61:1280:A201:EDC3:E89D:EE3F:7E47 (talk) 18:34, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
Apparent inconsistency in the numbers
editThere is an apparent inconsistency in the numbers in this article. The box at the top of the article quotes a growth rate of +1.19% (plus sign added by me, for emphasis) for 2023, but the vital statistics lower down show that Romania has been losing population for years, including in 2023. All of the other statistics support this, including the fertility rate, which is < 2.00. Is there a typo somewhere? If not, then this +1.19% really needs a direct reference, and, hopefully an explanation. -Spencer Klein, Berkeley. 2601:644:600:65F0:151A:C2B0:E831:5DBF (talk) 21:11, 2 September 2024 (UTC)