Talk:Demographics of Kenya

census figures extended version

If there are no objections I would also like to add this new information for the census from the following source:

www.knbs.or.ke/Census%20Results/ Presentation%20by%20Minister%20for%20Planning%20revised.pdf

This includes ethnic and religious affiliation:

p.34:

major tribes: Kikuyu - 6.62 Million (17.15% of the population) Luhya - 5.34 Million (13.83%) Kalenjin - 4.97 Million (12.87%) Luo - 4.04 Million (10.48%) Kamba - 3.89 Million (10.08%) Somali - 2.39 Million (6.18%) Kisii - 2.2 Milloon (5.71%)

Others mijikenda 1,960,574 meru 1,658,108 turkana 988,592 maasai 841,622 teso 338,833

religious affiliation (major tribes only) catholic 9,010,684 protestant 18,307,466 other christian 4,559,584 muslim 4,304,798 traditional 635,252 other 557,456 none 922,128 hindu 53,398

minor tribes: 324,092 embu 273,519 taita 260,401 kuria 237,179 samburu 175,905 tharaka mbeere 168, 155 borana 161,399 basuba 139, 271 swahili 110,614 gabra 89,515 orma 66,275 rendile 69,437

Kenya is adding over 1 million people a year (p. 36)

Ankitboy (talk) 15:41, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Actually, several of the ethnicity figures in the Kenya census were nullified and are presently being revised. This, in particular, is the case for the Somali in Kenya, whose numbers appear to have been grossly inflated (c.f. [1]). That source therefore unfortunately cannot be used for this particular parameter. Middayexpress (talk) 21:35, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

where are the luos?

They are totally missing from the section above the cia world factbook figures. If there is no dispute I will incorporate some changes, including changing the Bantu group to bantu-speaking group (as you can see in the bantu wikipedia article, they are a linguistic grouping and not an ethnic grouping). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.96.74.249 (talk) 15:57, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Bantu people are a broad ethno-linguistic group of related populations, not just a linguistic group. They share a common origin in the Nigeria/Cameroon region of West Africa and first arrived in East Africa a few thousand years ago in a series of migrations referred to as the Bantu expansion (for the most part, they even share the same signature DNA [2]). This is standard Bantu history [3]:

"Originally a linguistic classification, referring to a widespread group of languages within the South-Central Niger-Congo family, Bantu now refers to a complex of physical, anthropological and genetic characters correlated with the linguistic distribution, which are explained by a large-scale Holocene range expansion. This expansion occurred in several waves and directions and was responsible for the dispersal of farming to southern and central Africa. The linguistic evidence points to a Bantu origin in the vicinity of the Cross River valley near the present-day border between Nigeria and Cameroon."

Middayexpress (talk) 21:35, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Middayexpress is right: many sources (e.g. [4], [5], [6], etc) show that the Bantu are more than just a linguistic grouping, but rather an ethnic group (admittedly with lots admixtures) speaking | variants of the same original language. RantingMrP (talk) 09:51, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

dispute about categories & Godfrey source

The following source:

Godfrey Mwakikagile, Kenya: identity of a nation, (Godfrey Mwakikagile: 2007), p.99-102.

Which is used for the majority of the edits here is poorly written at best, and not from an academic (his biography states that he attended graduate school in the united states, but did not seem to graduate).I will try to find a more reputable source for information on kenya and incorporate the census figures as well. Ankitboy (talk) 16:18, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Some of the information from the book also borders on plaigirism, so if another source or better paraphrasing can be made by anyone, please do! Ankitboy (talk) 16:20, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Actually, Godfrey Mwakikagile graduated from Wayne State University. He is also one of the foremost contemporary scholars in the field of African studies. That unfortunately makes his work very much a reliable source, and thus is not going anywhere. What it asserts about the various ethno-linguistic communities in Kenya is also hardly unique and can be found in any number of other sources (e.g. [7], [8], [9], [10], [11]). And that includes the Kenyan government too ([12]). Middayexpress (talk) 21:35, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

fine

if we're going to have this inappropriate categorization and unnecessary information, let's at least be consistent, bantus, nilotes, cushites, semites and indo-europeans. Anyone who comes to this page will realize how ridiculous it is immediately, but at least let's be consistent with our notions. If there is any dispute, do not simply revert without discussion, fully discuss. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.96.74.249 (talk) 13:58, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

I guess this is totally appropriate, looking at the ethnic groups of south asia article. http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Ethnic_groups_of_the_Indian_subcontinent so there shouldn't be any problem being consistent here. how sad and outdated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.96.74.249 (talk) 14:06, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

julius sahara et al. do not revert without explanation

julius sahara et al. do not revert the additional groupings without explanation. I explained the changes in the discussion page, so if you have a problem with consistency, please explain and do not revert by simply claiming it's anonymous. Anonymous contributors deserve respect if their changes are sourced and explained. Cheers.

I don't know where you got the dubious idea that Indians are "Aryans" or the rest of your nomenclature, but it's original research (which is why you were reverted). Neither the Kenyan government nor other mainstream sources classify the nation's various ethno-linguistic communities as you have, so the material has been restored. Middayexpress (talk) 22:19, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

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Population Pyramid

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