Talk:Declaration of Helsinki

Latest comment: 3 years ago by 187.20.19.45 in topic Luizpuodzius

Scope

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This needs bringing into a project, such as medical ethics and research, along with related topics such as human experimentation, IRBs etc. --Mgoodyear 21:19, 21 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

I moved references to US practice to a new stub 'Common rule' since it was outside the scope of this page--Mgoodyear 21:19, 21 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Format

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I undid the last edit, it did not make sense in the overall format, probably better to discuss here--Mgoodyear 14:20, 24 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Undid edit because Additional Principles is a section heading within the Declaration, and should not have the same emphasis as bold titles - eventually these may get titles once the final structure is clear. --Mgoodyear 22:44, 27 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

If they're not sections, they don't need titles; Wikipedia is dynamic, not static, you ether must revert the article back to the last readable version, and work on a complete re-write offline or on your userpage, or ensure that the current revision is readable to users. If additional principles is not worthy of a section head, it shouldn't have the words 'additional principles' above it. --HoneymaneHeghlu meH QaQ jajvam 04:53, 27 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

It was perfectly readable, your edits distorted the structure. Additional Principles governs Articles 28-32, and is emphasised because all of the controversy relates to this part of the Declaration. It covers three paragraphs within the Revision. Unfortunately some of the lesser Wiki section titles don't work very well. For instance a title should never have a smaller font size and the underlying test. Section titles have now been added. --Mgoodyear 23:00, 27 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

References

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I removed this reference as incomplete and unhelpful. I can't recall Adil Shamoo ever referring to this, and a scan of his most important papers on the subject fails to reveal it. Besides which something in press in 1993 should be published by 2007, and it is not in any literature search of this topic.

  • Shamoo, Adil E. and Irving, Dianne N. "Accountability in Research." 1993 in press - Public Responsibility in Medicine and Research, Boston, Oct. 21 - 22, 1993

--Mgoodyear 14:22, 20 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Categories

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I undid the last edit and put back Research Ethics. The Declaration is a key document in the history of research ethics, while 1964 in Finland is not particularly contributory. Mgoodyear (talk) 19:30, 3 August 2008 (UTC)Reply

Incomplete sentence needing clarification

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It is said of the Helsinki Declaration "It is not a legally binding instrument in international,..."

In international law...or? The thought needs completion, but I'd hate to do it on a hunch. Dadofsam (talk) 21:30, 25 August 2009 (UTC)Reply


Hi, Human and Fluss (2001, p. 2) quoting Deutsch and Taupits says "…though [the Declaration] is not a legally binding instrument under international law [its] influence on medical ethics and national regulations on biomedical research cannot be overstated" so the wiki should say something like "it is not a legally binding instrument in international law". Bioethica (talk) 16:25, 2 September 2009 (UTC)Reply


Vandalism

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This article has been subject to extensive vandalism, with complete sections blanked out, not all of which picked up - it is going to take a lot of work to restore it. Particularly the work of User talk: 193.63.235.73 one of the notorious vandal from Robert Gordon University. So far I have found History, Fifth Revision, Second to Fourth revision, Background and all external links and references removed and replaced by "rubbish" Mgoodyear (talk) 19:31, 28 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

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Querendo traduzir é só dá o toque. att 187.20.19.45 (talk) 23:18, 16 November 2021 (UTC)Reply