Talk:David Arquette in World Championship Wrestling

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 10:18, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

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Arquette in 2009

• ... that David Arquette (pictured) donated his earnings from his appearances in World Championship Wrestling to the families of dead and injured wrestlers? Sourced to refs 9 and 12 in article
  • ALT1: ... that David Arquette's work in World Championship Wrestling inspired his return to wrestling years later? [1][2]

• Reviewed: 1914 Lubin vault fire

Created by Grapple X (talk). Self-nominated at 15:00, 25 October 2021 (UTC).

• New article that was moved to mainspace on 25 October 2021‎‎ is 6,413 characters and nominated on the same day. No copyvios detected and duplication detector of online sources[3][4][5][6][7][8][9] reveal no close paraphrasing issues (AGF books which can't go through Dup detector; high confidence of violation due to direct quotes that have all been cited). Article is well-sourced. Main hook is 140 characters long (ALT1 is 104); both are under 200 character max. and are interesting. Refs 7 and 8 (verifying ALT1) are reliable sources (AGF offline refs for main hook). QPQ done. Image is free and under Creative Commons license. Looks good to go! —Bloom6132 (talk) 02:29, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

ALT0 to T:DYK/P3 without image

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:David Arquette in World Championship Wrestling/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: GhostRiver (talk · contribs) 17:45, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Hello! I'll be taking a look at this article for the January 2022 GAN backlog drive. If you haven't already signed up, please feel free to join in! Although QPQ is not required, if you're feeling generous, I also have a list of GA nominations of my own right here.

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Lede

• Link professional wrestling in first sentence
• "the film's distributors Warner Bros." → "Warner Bros., who were distributing the film,"
• Should probably name the "rivals in the wrestling industry"
• "he would be involved with" → "with which he would be involved"
• Period rather than semicolon after "wrestling's worst moments" and add a comma after "additionally"

Background

• "hesitant over" → "hesitant about" or "hesitant towards"
• "would not be" → "would not have been" (I assume that this insistence came after the negative reception)

Storyline

• Comma after "April 12, 2000" per MOS:DATECOMMA
• Comma after "tag-team match against Jarrett and Eric Bischoff"

Legacy

• "making back only half"
• "being covered" → "receiving coverage"

References

• While MOS:NOTES does say that explanatory footnotes and citations can be combined into one section, I do think it looks awkward and they would benefit from being split

General comments

• Images are properly licensed and relevant
• No stability concerns in the revision history
• Earwig score looks good

Putting on hold now to allow nominator to address comments. Feel free to ping me with questions, and let me know when you're finished. — GhostRiver 22:09, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for taking the time to review this. I believe I have addressed everything above, here are the changes involved. I hope this article was not difficult to follow--I know professional wrestling has a lot of inside-baseball jargon and I'm hoping to take this article further so if anything was unclear please let me know. ᵹʀᴀᴘᴘʟᴇ ꭗ 15:27, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for making those changes! I actually know a decent amount of wrestling jargon, as I had a lot of lung infections and stomach bugs around the ages of 8-13, and when I had to stay home from school, reruns of old WWE matches were always on TV. That and Gangland. In any case, passing now! — GhostRiver 16:51, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Much appreciated, thank you again. ᵹʀᴀᴘᴘʟᴇ ꭗ 18:01, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Copyedit comments

• "professional wrestling promotion World Championship Wrestling" I'm having trouble parsing this phrase. Is there some word or comma missing?
• "It was also believed that the actor" better rephrase with who believed this
• "with the storyline conceit" I would rephrase in simpler language if possible
• "fellow wrestlers unhappy with the decision" I assume this refers to Arquette being scripted as the champion but this could be more clear
• No need for constructions like "then-wife" as she was his wife at the time. I think it says this somewhere in MOS.
• "former mixed martial artist Tank Abbott" The use of "former" is confusing; had Abbott retired from MMA before or after this defense?
• "Additionally, it was believed" by whom?
• Wrestling journalist Dave Meltzer reported that live ticket sales for the Slamboree event all but stopped after Arquette's involvement its buildup, leaving it "a substantial money loser as a live event" The source is paywalled but does it support that the event was a money loser because of Arquette's involvement, or just that it ended up being a money loser (and might have been without his involvement)? If the latter I would rewrite to avoid the potentially WP:OR implications something like "and it was ultimately".

Overall, the article seems well written. I know almost nothing about professional wrestling, but I don't think it's too jargon heavy. (t · c) buidhe 06:34, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for looking this one over. I made a few changes based on the above, which can be seen here. As t your first point I'm not sure how best to rephrase that—World Championship Wrestling was the name of the company, or promotion, so this would I guess be the equivalent of "the film studio Universal Pictures" or "the administrative body UEFA". Re Abbott, he had retired from MMA at this stage to work exclusively in pro wrestling, but later went back to it. I could drop "former" but wanted to denote that he wasn't plucked right out of the UFC for this show. I've amended the sentence about ticket sales et al, Meltzer makes it clear that the ticket sales stopping was because of the Arquette story but ultimately it's hard to say if the gate would have been profitable or if they would have just lost less money on the house without him. ᵹʀᴀᴘᴘʟᴇ ꭗ 10:21, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

This usage of "promotion" seems to be wrestling jargon (?) so maybe it would be easier for the casual reader to understand if it were replaced by another word and/or the entire noun phrase were broken up somehow. Something like "World Championship Wrestling (WCW), a professional wrestling promotion" might be easier to parse. (t · c) buidhe 10:32, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

I think it's common in combat sports (the UFC or Bellator are "promotions", likewise the WBO etc) but I've rephrased it as you suggest. ᵹʀᴀᴘᴘʟᴇ ꭗ 11:26, 10 January 2022 (UTC)