Talk:Damian Lillard

Exact birth date

Rikster2 WP:DOB which is part of the policy page WP:BLP says Wikipedia includes full names and dates of birth that have been widely published by reliable sources, or by sources linked to the subject such that it may reasonably be inferred that the subject does not object to the details being made public. In the absence of a citation to a reliable source, such wide publication cannot be presumed. I routinely remove exact birth dates, trimming them to the year alone, in any BLP article, unless they are cited inline to a reliable source indicating that the date has already been widely published, or published by the subject. Moreover, it is my view that in most cases exact birth dates are not encyclopedic, but are mere trivia. The year of birth is in most cases sufficient to give context to a biographical article, the exact date is rarely of much importance, and is better omitted even if it can be sourced. This latter view does not have clear consensus, but requiring a cie for DOBs seems to have.

Please consider this a challenge to an unsourced fact in a BLP. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 23:19, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

See your talk page for response. For NBA players their dates of birth appear everywhere - from their team profile (which is linked in the infobox of this article) to every trading card they have appeared on - which in Lillard’s case is literally hundreds. But I cited it. Rikster2 (talk) 23:23, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

@DESiegel: Per MOS:OPENPARABIO, it's generally expected that birthdates are listed , when available. While all information needs to be verifiable, editors also have a responsibility to WP:PRESERVE information, when possible. There are a reasonable number of sources listing his birthdate, available on a basic search. Were you not sure if they were reliable? Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 00:56, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Bagumba For BLPs MOS:OPENPARABIO is superceeded by WP:DOB and does not apply. The source needs to be more than reliable it needs to be widely published as well. My normal practice is to remove any uncited exact birth dates from any BLP. If there is a source I may check it or just accept it, but I won't usually go looking for sources for info I really don't think we need in any case. If someone else wants to cite the info, fine. and WP:PRESERVE says Preserve appropriate content. I am not convinced that an exact birth date is appropriate content in the fist place. What actual value does it have? Well this is not the right place to debate the general policy. The date here has been cited and seems to have been widely published, so I have no further objections to it in this article. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 01:08, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

@DESiegel: WP:DOB does not mention that it necessarily needs to be cited, nor does verifiability require that everything be cited. WP:UNSOURCED policy does say: When tagging or removing material for lacking an inline citation, please state your concern that it may not be possible to find a published reliable source and the material therefore may not be verifiable. Which is why I asked if you were skeptical that sources you found were reliable. However, you said you didn't look for a source, and generally don't in these cases, and that you don't agree with the widely followed practice at MOS of specifying DOBs. While it's OK if you start a new bio and choose not to include a DOB, it's another thing to remove existing DOBs that are widely published and verifiable, merely because it's uncited.—Bagumba (talk) 04:53, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Bagumba MOS:OPENPARABIO says: For living persons, privacy should be considered (see WP:BLPPRIVACY, which takes precedence). Many of the various specific versions of {{Infobox person}} instruct that for a BLP {{Birth year and age}} should be used instead of {{Birth date and age}} All of which I take to mean that there is not a consensus to include the exact date for BLPs unless there is evidence that the date is widely published (not just verifiable) or else distributed by the subject or with the subject's consent. Such evidence should either be a citation, or talk page discussion. It may be that in this case the removal was an error on my part, but most cases where an uncited exact date of birth is included do not turn out that the date had been widely published. The general principle holds, IMO. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 05:15, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

@DESiegel: I trust that areas you typically edit might not have widely published birthdates. With the big American sports, that's usually not the case. I don't expect everyone to actually know that, but that's where searching might be more critical when wading into perhaps unfamiliar domains. Best.—Bagumba (talk) 05:29, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 February 2020

can you please make changes under the "rap career" title, add "on 9th August, 2019" after "Lillard released his third album, Big DOLLA" since it would be more clear of a timeline for the readers to know the release date of the album. here is the source for this http://onsmash.com/music/damian-lillard-big-dolla-tracklist-release-date/ Also can you add "Although Lillard will be missing the all star game and 3 point contest, he will still step up to the stage and deliver a rap performance on Saturday night in Chicago as part of the All-Star festivities." at the end of the second paragraph under "rap career" tittle. source for this: https://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/2020/02/damian-lillard-will-rap-at-nba-all-star-weekend-as-planned-despite-injury-report.html

appreciated if this change is made!! Lannyperm (talk) 13:22, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

I did the first edit that you requested, but as for the second one, it says "...and deliver a rap performance on Saturday night...". That is not quite the tone of an encyclopedia and I didn't feel comfortable doing it. DarthFlappy (talk) 00:40, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Bubble MVP Award Inclusion in Infobox

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Hi, we're currently looking to form a consensus on whether Damian Lillard's Bubble MVP award should be included in his page's infobox. If you'd like to take part in that discussion, please contribute at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_National_Basketball_Association#Should_the_Bubble_MVP_award_be_treated_differently_than_All-Bubble_awards_for_infobox_purposes?. -- ExParte ^{talk | contribs} 20:47, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 18 August 2020

Add Bubble MVP to the list of awards as it is an official award. Freedom.to.distribute.information (talk) 17:50, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. See link to ongoing discussion in the previous section, please feel free to contribute your thoughts there. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 18:25, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

High School edit request on 20 August 2020

"As a senior, he averaged 22.4 points and 5.2 assists per game while leading the Oakland Oakers to a 23–9 record" The mascot of Oakland High School in Oakland, Californa is Wildcats. The Oakland Oakers is Oakland, Oregon. Please change Oakers to Wildcats.

Corrected. Thank you for pointing it out. CalDoesIt (talk) 17:48, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Additional High School edit request, 30 August 2020

The city listed for his freshman year is incorrect as he attended Arroyo High School in San Lorenzo and not in El Monte. The article used in the citation doesn't list the city but this article with Coach Lippi specifies the city, albeit he lists it as San Leandro. This is the source https://www.thewarriorstalk.com/blog/2019/5/14/lippi-on-lillard-portland-point-guards-high-school-head-coach-on-his-career-and-growth — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:6C50:617F:F28F:AAB5:7473:B476:D647 (talk) 23:48, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

I found a source that has the right location and is now used in the article. Thanks for the correction. CalDoesIt (talk) 18:27, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 September 2020

NBA Bubble MVP (2020) NBA All-Bubble First Team (2020) Ericjcross4 (talk) 19:48, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Danski454 (talk) 21:03, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Semi-Protected edit request

On the NBA website, NBA Bubble MVP and All-NBA Bubble First Team are official awards. So can we get that put into Dame’s Awards section please? Can we also get info on Dames music in NBA2K21. He released a whole bunch of songs on the game and also a new Single KOBE with snoop dog I can see no mention of this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:1970:54A5:A300:AD3B:B5CD:CCCD:4F21 (talk) 23:47, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Bubble MVP is already in the awards section of the article. There was extensive discussion about Bubble MVP and All-Bubble and the consensus was NOT to add these to the list of highlights in the infobox. See here. Rikster2 (talk) 00:21, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

@Rikster2. That’s my bad I must have missed that, but what about my second point, he has songs on NBA 2K 21 which should be mentioned in the music section and he also just released a new single with snoop dogg called Kobe — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:1970:54A5:A300:AD3B:B5CD:CCCD:4F21 (talk) 00:26, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Rikster2 Will his music be added? ^^^^ --YBTrece (talk) 18:07, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

YBTrece: You can submit an edit request, providing the text you want added and where, along with reliable sources that support the change.—Bagumba (talk) 03:46, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 October 2020

(Suggested addition under PERSONAL LIFE)

On October 1st 2020, Lillard announced that he had purchased a Toyota dealership in the city of McMinnville, OR just outside Portland. The dealership was purchased with longtime friend and industry veteran, Brian Sanders and was subsequently renamed Damian Lillard Toyota. On the same day, McMinnville Mayor Scott Hill declared October 1st officially Damian Lillard Day to recognize Lillard's contributions to the city and to the State of Oregon.

References

LIBRKN (talk) 22:49, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 00:02, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

@Eggishorn: I just saw this as I responded to the request below. What's wrong with nbcsports? 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 02:48, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

west linn

in the personal life section it states he lives in the portland neighborhood of west linn, but west linn is not in portland nor a neighborhood. it's a city. it shoul dsay he lives in west linn, oregon or it should say he lives in the portland suburb of west linn. --2601:145:4380:79A0:ED7F:4104:66DC:3E2A (talk) 02:36, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

 Done You are correct. To be fair, the "reliable" source has it wrong. Take a look and see if you think it is stated clearly. Thanks! 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 02:46, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Damian Lillard Kids

Damian Lillard had a Boy and a Girl on January 21, 2021, making him a father of three — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xad5002 (talk • contribs)

 Done. Next time make sure to accompany your edit request with a reliable source. Since this was easy enough to verify, I've made the edit and added a citation myself. Also, make sure to sign your posts :) Volteer1 (talk) 07:55, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Rapper

Damian Lillard is also a rapper, his stage name is DAME D.O.L.L.A.

Should that be put after American basketball player or no? 72.48.68.145 (talk) 03:26, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Per MOS:ROLEBIO, it's not notable enough for the lead sentence, and probably not the opening paragraph either. Perhaps a sentence in the end of the lead, if at all.—Bagumba (talk) 06:49, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Best of Portland 2022

• https://www.wweek.com/promotions/2022/07/13/people-winners/

---Another Believer _(Talk) 13:36, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 September 2022

Incorrect comma usage in fifth sentence of header paragraph. 2001:56A:7306:F300:4DD4:1F5E:DC87:C11B (talk) 16:56, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

 Done Madeline (part of me) 17:32, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

Evaluation

This’s article’s lead section has clearly introduction sentence about the topic. All main points in content section are written in lead section briefly, people can know main idea quickly. The content section detailed displays Damian’s experience and achievements. All content have reliable recourses from different authors. There is no subjective contents in the article and words are neutral. The informations in the content section are up-to date. By the talk page, author added new information about Damian to make the article more comprehensive. Sh7039 (talk) 21:46, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

Filmography edit request

Damian appeared as himself on Portlandia season 4 episode 7 and season 7 episode 6. 2603:9001:9200:5E96:A91A:2190:43B:6738 (talk) 14:49, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Bubble mvp

He needs credit for being the bubble mvp it isnt talked about much 2600:1700:7B00:7050:E871:605C:4961:2432 (talk) 04:19, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

There's mention now at Damian Lillard § 2019–20 season: Career high in assists per game. The actual name of the award was NBA Player of the Seeding Games. The fact that "it isnt talked about much" means Wikipedia shouldn't make a big deal out of it either (WP:WEIGHT).—Bagumba (talk) 04:43, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

Trade to the bucks

Dame just got traded to the bucks for jru holiday 205.223.223.15 (talk) 18:45, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Trade is not official yet. Waiting for an announcement from the teams themselves, not Woj or any other insider. Troutfarm27 ^(Talk) 18:49, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Damian Lillard has tweeted about it himself here. 2607:FB91:2FA1:C8DF:40C4:10CE:B17F:B76D (talk) 19:39, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

You cocksuckers, he has signed. 2A00:23C6:826:1F01:646F:3BC4:C148:776A (talk) 00:31, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

They made it official on the team page — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.151.175.192 (talk) 02:41, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

That's exactly what we're waiting for. Thank you! Troutfarm27 ^(Talk) 02:45, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Please review WP:SPORTSTRANS on how Wikipedia handles this type of news. - Skipple ☎ 02:44, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 September 2023

I want to change Damian Lillards team to the Milwaukee Bucks. Swagboy2 (talk) 19:49, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 22:21, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 29 September 2023

Request to change sentence in Personal Life section from "In 2020–21 season, he became teammates of his cousin, Keljin Blevins." to "For the 2020–21 and 2021–22 seasons, he became teammates with his cousin, Keljin Blevins." QBKennedy (talk) 21:32, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

 Done changed to "he became a teammate of his cousin". M.Bitton (talk) 10:09, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Damian Lillard 2020 NBA Restart MVP and First Team awards

Adding additional Career Achievements and Awards-

Damian Lillard won the 2020 NBA Restart Bubble MVP award in which he received a stand alone trophy for.

He also was named to the NBA All-Bubble first team for 2020 as well.

I would like to see these personal achievement awards added to his Career Highlights and Awards section. Thank you Reference https://sports.yahoo.com/damian-lillard-named-nba-bubble-mvp-suns-monty-williams-honored-as-top-coach-181258648.html 174.21.181.159 (talk) 16:34, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

 Not done for now: Please provide the WikiLinks for these awards.  Spintendo  04:26, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

See #Bubble mvp (above). There's already mention of the MVP in the body. Per WP:NBAHIGHLIGHTS, the consensus is not to include bubble awards in the infobox. —Bagumba (talk) 04:40, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Damian Lillard 2019 J Walter Kennedy Award

Add to Career Achievements and Awards

For the 2018-2019 NBA season, Damian Lillard was awarded the J. Walter Kennedy Citizenship Award.

This award goes all the way back to the 1970’s and is awarded every year.

Thanks

Reference

http://en.m.wiki.x.io/wiki/J._Walter_Kennedy_Citizenship_Award#:~:text=The%20J.,and%20dedication%20to%20the%20community.%22 174.21.181.159 (talk) 16:44, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. You can't use Wikipedia as reference (see WP:REFLOOP) Deltaspace⁴² (talk • contribs) 11:55, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

There's no consensus for its inclusion in the infobox per WP:NBAHIGHLIGHTS. —Bagumba (talk) 04:48, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

3x Bob Lanier Community Assist Award

Adding to his Career achievements and awards- Damian Lillard has won the NBA’s John Lanier Community Assist Award 3 separate times. March 2013, November 2018, April 2021.

Source- http://en.m.wiki.x.io/wiki/NBA_Community_Assist_Award#Monthly_award_winners 174.21.181.159 (talk) 16:58, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. You can't use Wikipedia as reference (see WP:REFLOOP) Deltaspace⁴² (talk • contribs) 11:56, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

There's no consensus for its inclusion in the infobox per WP:NBAHIGHLIGHTS. —Bagumba (talk) 04:49, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request Kicks Crew Investment

Adding his Kicks Crew investment from July 2023 to the "Personal Life" section. Suggestion:

In June 2023 Lillard expanded his business activities with his first start-up investment in sneaker platform in Kicks Crew. He announced the investment and a partnership to expand his youth activities in Asia, the first of which saw him coach high school students in gyms across lower-income areas of Hong Kong's Kowloon district.

Additional references if needed: https://www.si.com/fannation/sneakers/interviews/damian-lillard-partnering-with-kicks-crew, https://hypebeast.com/2022/11/kicks-crew-damian-lillard-campaign-video

Thank you!

References

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 20 February 2024

Change 7 All-Star & 7 all nba appearances to 8 all star 2001:56A:7A74:7700:ACAC:8932:E398:43C8 (talk) 21:35, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

It looks like it's correct already or someone changed it. -- ZooBlazer 03:58, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 26 April 2024

• List of NBA career playoff 3-point scoring leaders Terrance2023 (talk) 02:15, 26 April 2024 (UTC) to dd * List of NBA career playoff 3-point scoring leaders

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk|contribs) 04:18, 26 April 2024 (UTC)