Talk:Dale Creek Crossing

Dale Creek Bridge

A crossing is not a bridge. I would like to request that Wikipedia user Acroterion revert the re-direct of the Dale Creek Bridge to Dale Creek Crossing. Dale Creek Bridge, not the crossing (which has been declared an historic area) was a signal engineering feat of the U.S. transcontinental railroad, or as author Stephen Ambrose claims, the most important engineering accomplishments of the 19th century. The reason for the re-direct edit was listed as "no longer a bridge at this location." The fact that Dale Creek Bridge was demolished does not diminish its worthiness as a stand-alone article. Please look at the current leadin sentence for this article to see how awkward the writing is now that Dale Creek Crossing has been forced as a replacement term for Dale Creek Bridge:

The 650 feet (200 m) Dale Creek Crossing, completed in 1868 in southeastern Wyoming Territory presented engineers of the United States' first transcontinental railroad one of their most difficult challenges

Moreover, "dale creek crossing" produces 242 hits on google. "Dale Creek Bridge" returns 1,270. I am prepared to build Dale Creek Bridge into an academic quality article. I respectfully request that the Wikipedia article Dale Creek Bridge be restored to its proper place to avoid confusing readers and to facilitate writing by editors. Thank you for your consideration. Fishdecoy (talk) 02:35, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

It's listed on the National Register of Historic Places as "Dale Creek Crossing", and is mentioned as such by the Wyoming State Preservation Office. Please do not take the redirect as a slight, and please understand that this is a collaborative process, and there may be other opinions on the matter. I'm fine with having it a bridge and redirecting from "crossing", but there were three bridges there, none of which have survived. Therefore, I felt that the National Register terminology would be appropriate. The redirect comment was not aimed at the worthiness of the article - I was delighted to see and help out with it, and it's absolutely notable, and I welcome your interest in the subject and your willingness to build the article. I doubt anybody will be confused either way, as long a there's a redirect in either case. Acroterion _(talk) 02:47, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

My research so far has found that there were only two bridges at the site, not three. The wooden bridge was replaced by an iron one, apparently in 1876 rather than 1878. The iron bridge was strengthened in 1885 but not replaced. Some statements in the current article are poorly sourced or unsupported, which I will tag as such. I have found a few additional refs. which appear to be improvements. I will add these and edit the article as my time allows. Caseyjonz (talk) 02:23, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

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The Dale Creek Crossing was a 650-foot (200 m) bridge in the southeastern Wyoming Territory, United States, completed in 1868. It was constructed by the Union Pacific Railroad as part of the first transcontinental railroad. With a maximum height of 150 feet (46 m) and with a necessity of cutting through solid rock on both sides, it was one of the most difficult parts of the line to build. The original bridge was built of wood, and its trestles began swaying in the wind from the opening day. The original bridge was replaced on the 1868 piers in 1876 by an iron bridge, manufactured by the American Bridge Company, and this was dismantled entirely in 1901 when the Union Pacific completed construction of a new alignment over Sherman Hill as part of a reconstruction project which shortened the Overland Route. This photograph of the Dale Creek Crossing was taken during construction in 1868 by the project's official photographer, Andrew J. Russell.

Photograph credit: Andrew J. Russell; restored by Adam Cuerden

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