Talk:Dónde Están los Ladrones?/GA1

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Reviewer: Tbhotch (talk · contribs) 07:12, 7 September 2017 (UTC)Reply


GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

  1. Is it reasonably well written?
    A. Prose quality:  
    B. MoS compliance:  
  2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. References to sources:  
    B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:  
    C. No original research:  
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. Major aspects:  
    B. Focused:  
  4. Is it neutral?
    Fair representation without bias:  
  5. Is it stable?
    No edit wars, etc:  
  6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
    A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:  
    B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:  
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:  
Resolved comments from Tbhotch
;General
  • [1] 1 ambiguous link, 1 self-redirect
  • I didn't expected this (because it was nominated recently), but it has [2] 2 uncategorized redirects, 1 suspicious link, and 2 dead links. The 3 registration (access issue) sources are Newsbank.com and RIAA's, no problem with them.
Lead
  • "¿Dónde Están los Ladrones?" (and elsewhere). -> Although it is grammatically correct, the lack of "¿" is deliverated (as marked by sources).
  • Where Are the Thieves? -> No reason to bold it.
  • You can expand the lead a bit more, as currently it is not focusing on background, development and composition
Background and development
  • proéminence is French, prominence is English.
  • "...totally on this project". -> Citations always go after quotes. This applies elsewhere.
Title and artwork
  • "At the El Dorado International Airport in Bogotá after finishing" -> "At the El Dorado International Airport in Bogotá, after finishing"
  • saying, "From -> saying, "[f]rom
  • according to one biographer -> {{who?}}
Composition
  • "cannot take so long..." -> Is the ellipsis part of the original quote?
  • Dónde Están los Ladrones -> Dónde Están los Ladrones?
  • Mars and Venus -> Venus and Mars
  • Shakira confesses that she can not make coffee, does not understand soccer, and that she must have been unfaithful at some point and never wears watch. -> Almost the same phrase as in the source.
  • that refers to God coming to Earth after finishing his work and discovering everything to be in ruins, and decides to quit his job and become a normal man. -> Same as above.
  • The following track "Tú" lyrically -> The following track, "Tú", lyrically
  • podre -> podré
  • en París condenando -> en París, condenando
  • las portada -> las portadas
  • by Paris condemning -> by Paris, condemning
  • Link cocktails to Cocktail party.
  • Beiruit -> Beirut
  • she has never found "eyes like yours". -> this is phrased like the source.
  • File:Ojos Asi (Shakira song - sample).ogg doesn't have fair use rationale to be in this page.
Critical reception
  • Bob Dylan and Beck -> links
  • but also noted that [12 words later...] but listeners for whom
  • trademark sound - rock-laced pop melodies backed by acoustic guitars - as well as -> MOS:DASH
  • FM pop – and the fact -> same as above
Accolades
Singles
  • 7 September 1998 is unsourced
  • in November 1998 as well
  • by Gustavo Garzón -> by Garzón (twice)
  • Shakira is seen singing the song -> passive voice doesn't work here
  • in February 1999 is unsourced
  • "two and three on the US Latin Pop Songs" ... "reaching numbers 2 and 9 on the US Latin Pop Songs" -> choose one
  • "Ojos Así" was released as the album's final single in July 1999. -> unsourced, plus, it is inconsistent with ""Moscas en la Casa" was released as the sixth single"
  • "Due to an absense of a music video, the song reached lower positions on music charts" (10 and 25) -> Ojos así reached 9 and 22 with a music video, so where did you get that conclusion?
Promotion
  • Con T De Tarde -> Con T de Tarde
  • Shakira embarked on the Tour Anfibio which began on 17 March 2000 in Panama City, Panama -> I know Wikipedia is not reliable but Tour Anfibio says it started on Lima 4 days later. This kind of confirms it.
However, a biography of Shakira says it began in Panama in said date.
English version
  • Gloria Estefan is already linked
  • whose husband Emilio Estefan was managing Shakira at that time -> which time? Anyway, this has been already mentioned before.
  • so Estefan offered to translate -> Gloria? (This is why that line is irrelevant here).
Track listing
  • "All lyrics written by Shakira Mebarak." reduces you a column.
  • "Estoy Aquí" is overlinked
References and notes
References
  • 7:¿Dónde Están los Ladrones? -> Dónde Están los Ladrones? (per source)
  • 9: A.M.Rothman -> Rothman, A.M.
  • 12: WP:ALLCAPS
  • 13: Link Billboard
  • 26: |format=PDF
  • 46: link Cámara Uruguaya del Disco; Premios doesn't have an accent
  • 50: WP:ALLCAPS
  • 51: WP:ALLCAPS
  • 63: WP:ALLCAPS and |format=PDF
  • 65: has a format error
  • 77: Page 75 -> 74
  • "If you leave me for that witch, bitch, don't ever come back" -> Basically, Shakira is calling her that in the song, and although it rhythms, translating pedazo de cuero to bitch is not a translation but an adaptation. I know a transliteration is worse ("piece of leather") but, according to the Real Academia Española, it colloquially means in Colombia a "Mujer avejentada y fea (an aged and ugly woman)"[3]
Still the same, that's not a translation, that's an interpretation and requires a source. © Tbhotch (en-2.5). 06:06, 10 September 2017 (UTC)Reply
  • "A cartoonish and decapited head of a living person, over other possible choices, is appropriate for this article because _____".
I'll be more clear. I wan't referring to the alt text but to the image itself. Why are you using a decapited parody of Hillary Clinton when we have dozens of other possible uses? © Tbhotch (en-2.5). 06:06, 10 September 2017 (UTC)Reply
Replaced. I didn't notice it was Hillary, I wouldn't ever use it if I did lol
  • "whilst" -> are you using British English?
There is another one.
  • "sixth single from ¿Dónde Están los Ladrones?"
Sorry, I didn't understand it
  • "Estoy Aquí" is overlinked
Still overlinked. © Tbhotch (en-2.5). 06:06, 10 September 2017 (UTC)Reply
  • "9. "=¿Dónde Están los Ladrones?""
  • The sigle release dates still unsourced (in either infobox or body).

Article on hold. © Tbhotch (en-2.5). 01:33, 9 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

@Tbhotch:, I think I have addressed all the issues concerning the article. Thanks. Alex talk 23:58, 9 September 2017 (UTC)Reply
@11JORN: Check above. © Tbhotch (en-2.5). 06:06, 10 September 2017 (UTC)Reply
@Tbhotch: done Alex talk 07:06, 10 September 2017 (UTC)Reply
@11JORN: OK then. Good work. Also, consider archiving links to avoid dead ones. © Tbhotch (en-2.5). 07:27, 10 September 2017 (UTC)Reply