Talk:Cueva del Indio (Arecibo)

Requested move 21 February 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Silikonz💬 22:25, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

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Cueva del Indio (Arecibo) → Cueva del Indio (Arecibo, Puerto Rico) – Per WP:USPLACE, the article name for the municipality is Arecibo, Puerto Rico and the parenthetical disambiguation should follow. While the shorter name would be clear to readers coming in from other Puerto Rican topics, it would be less obvious for readers interested in caves. RevelationDirect (talk) 01:56, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

• Note I opened a related but separate RM to rename Cueva del Indio to Cueva del Indio (Las Piedras, Puerto Rico). Your input (pro/con/other) is welcome right here. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:00, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose per WP:CONCISE and WP:OVERPRECISION. WP:USPLACE applies only to articles about the places themselves, not necessarily to disambiguators used for articles not about populated places. In this case it is especially unnecessary as the other Cueva del Indio is also in Puerto Rico. That other article, if it needs to be moved at all, should go to Cueva del Indio (Las Piedras). The longer titles could be redirects. Station1 (talk) 20:14, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose per Station1. Completely unnecessary. If the nom's logic was followed, then every cave (or other feature) should also include its territory as well as its specific location. But that's not generally what we do. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:19, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

My perception is that we generally do do that though to comply with WP:PLACEDAB, like with Red Mountain#United States which generally follows a "(County, State)" format. - RevelationDirect (talk) 11:55, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

But notice the first one that is disambiguated by city rather than county. Alabama is not mentioned, yet Birmingham on Wikipedia refers to the city in England. I think possibly American counties are a different case (although I'm not convinced they should be), as they are generally pretty obscure. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:07, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.