Talk:Cricket in England

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I've added a new subject about Cricket in Society, since the sport has been so intertwined with England's culture, and wrote on the emergence of Cricket in relation to the development of parliament. This subtitle can definitely be expanded upon more. Julesaj11 (talk) 17:05, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

I contributed to that subtitle, as you have stated, it can definitely be expanded upon more. Thank you! I talked a bit more about the violence and gambling and their effects upon the sport and the relationship between players and fans. Taylormcallister17 (talk) 19:27, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

I've added to the Popularity section about how cricket gained the status of national identity in the nineteenth century. This applies to the section of popularity because it shows how cricket became a part of the English national identity. Saraht0613 (talk) 20:52, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Not Redundancy

Please do not have this deleted as 'category redundancy', it is not. See Rugby league in England, Rugby union in England and Football in England for what a developed article might look like.GordyB 20:28, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

From archaic, barbaric haphazardness to Civilized Sport

Already from the first chapter of Globalizing Cricket it is evident that it began as a "sport" which revolved around people functioning in an disorderly, almost barbaric fashion which led to numerous injuries. Cricket at that time defied the modernest rationalization of team sports, it had not regulated the provision of equal playing conditions and the multiple co-exsitng forms of the game created further confusion as there was no regulatory guidelines of significance. As the implementation of regulations such as not being allowed to hit the ball twice, rules regarding how to get a batter out, equipment standards and the overall increased coherence of the game made it more civilized as a sport.NRadi1 (talk) 20:18, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

"The shift towards the relatively peaceful settlement of disputes in political conflict facilitated the competition for social status to take place via non-violent means. Behavior characterized by stricter personal self-control and self-discipline became socially valued, and ultimately ingrained as part of this social class's habitus. It is, therefore, entirely logical that sports rules invariably restrict the means by which individuals can achieve sporting success and therefore reward similar behavioral characteristics."(Globalizing Cricket chapter 1, page 16) It seems as though politics and society are two key driving forces in elevating cricket from a seemingly barbaric and utterly violent game into a more civilized sport as seen by the new laws and societal behaviors that developed in parallel to the development of cricket. As gambling, rowdy behavior, public indecency during cricket games declined, it directly correlated with the upgrade in the actions and mindsets of members of society in England during that time. 18th Century Cricket "was part of a vibrant, if violent, rural culture."(Globalizing Cricket chapter 1, page 19) The newly implemented rules to the game of cricket as well as "the resolution of gambling disputes and the avoidance of crowd disorder provides only a partial answer."(Globalizing Cricket chapter 1 page 21)Thus it can be concluded that at that time politics and cricket were closely linked.NRadi1 (talk) 02:18, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

I added a small part on Cricket, trying to relate the game to its colonial/imperial roots as portrayed in chapter 3 of Globalizing Cricket. The goal of Cricket being an educational as well as a civilizing tool to me seemed key in the globalization of the game, or at least for the definition of it as England's quintessential game.NRadi1 (talk) 05:18, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Requested move 10 March 2019

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Consensus to speedy close and not move. First get consensus for the merger. Achieving that, then we can talk about title changes. (non-admin closure) В²C ☎ 22:06, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

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Cricket in England → Cricket in England and Wales – The ECB is the England and Wales Cricket board so cricket in both England and Wales is effectively merged so why are there separate articles for cricket in both England and Wales when only one organisation regulates cricket for both countries especially when tests, ODIs and T20Is have been played in Wales. 2A02:C7F:5622:2000:4162:51A9:A6E9:389 (talk) 16:01, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

• Speedy close. What you appear to want is a merge of Cricket in England and Cricket in Wales. WP:RM is not the venue for that discussion. PC78 (talk) 17:55, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

Well yes but I thought in order to do that I had to put in a move request on this article and a merger request on the Cricket in Wales article. I don’t see how this clashes. (2A02:C7F:5622:2000:601F:EA76:974:44E1 (talk) 18:36, 10 March 2019 (UTC))

Moves and merges are two different processes. Wikipedia:Proposed mergers is what you're looking for. PC78 (talk) 18:31, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

• Speedy close and oppose a merge request being suggested. Just because the ECB controls England and Wales doesn't mean that we should have one article rather than two. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:32, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
• Speedy close Per above. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:44, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

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Missing history

The page on Cricket 1715-1814 now only covers to 1763, where has the rest gone? Grahamsands (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 10:43, 1 April 2019 (UTC)