Talk:Crescent College

Improvements

Hi. There has been some improvement to this article of late. However several issues remain. Not least the lack of references.

The section covering origins contains more than a little uncited editorial and commentary. For example, there's a statement that [David] Wo[u]lfe probably taught in Limerick and may not have been able (due to somewhat vague duties that an unattributed party considered burdensome) to focus on things in Limerick. And so gave the job to a cousin(?). Unless this can be tightened-up a little, why not drop all the preamble, and just stick to the simple/latter statement? That Wolfe delegated to Daniel? And leave it at that? (With a supporting cite of course).

The sections covering more modern times also contain quite a bit of uncited editorial and commentary. For example, there are editorial flourishes about the "pursuit of excellence" or the "thousands of daffodils that spring forth annually". And unqualified and unsubstantiated statements about how some sports are "exclusively dominated" by the school, or how other sports are important components/dimensions of ... something unspecified by undoubtedly flowery. Not to mentioned the unattributed opinion that Berlin is "somewhat exotic" as a school tour destination.

I'd left these lie for some years. Mainly as we had hat-notes which advised readers that the content didn't perhaps represent the community's best work. However, as those hat-notes are now removed, I wonder if (if not improved) this type of content might be removed. If there are no other thoughts on how best to address, I may take a stab myself... Guliolopez (talk) 00:17, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

Detail and topic

As per the longstanding tag in the "history" section, we seem to be straying significantly off topic in a number of places. And now have excessive levels of biographical detail on some of the people involved. Much better suited to the David Wolfe (Jesuit) article and other associated biographical articles. And excessive levels of background detail on some of the events involved. Much better suited to the Society_of_Jesus#History article. Or even split to a Jesuits in Ireland article (equivalent to the Jesuits in Ameria article). In general I would note that, of the extensive content (nearly 5000 words) in the "history" section, at least 40% of it relates to people and events which are only tangentially related to the subject here. Per WP:SS, we should not try and cover EVERYTHING in every article. Stuff that is better covered in other articles should be covered in those articles. Otherwise the content becomes impenetrable to the reader. Guliolopez (talk) 11:55, 28 July 2020 (UTC)