Talk:Consett

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Consett Airport

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Why is there no reference to the airport? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.204.67.171 (talk) 06:43, 8 November 2007 (UTC) There is no airport in Consett. Im guessing you mean Punjab international airlines, from Consett international airport? It was an advert for crisps, by derwent valley foods. They even closed all the train stations one of which used to go all the way to Sunderland and the other to Newcastle.Reply

Paddy McAloon

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Paddy McAloon is from Langley Park, not Consett.

Booming Nightlife

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Consett is well known for its booming night life. Boasting a number of pubs, bars and housing four night clubs, it is a town on the up. Consett proves itself as a popular night spot for all ages from 18 - 80.

No one who as ever been to Consett would actually believe this steaming pile of crap... JW2 12:32, 27 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

Wikipedia prohibits original research. Can you provide any external references that would support your claim? ~MDD4696 04:22, 1 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Consett does have a vibrant nightlife. They don't build a Wetherspoons just anywhere - there are only 7 in England, one or which is in Consett.

Ha ha ha Wetherspoon's will have around 700 pubs in the Uk. I can think of 2 in Sunderland, 1 in Durham, 2 in Newcastle, 1 in Washington, 1 in Hartlepool and then the Consett one so thats 8 within a few dozen miles. And ive been in load's in London. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.105.105.115 (talk) 04:14, 16 November 2008 (UTC)Reply

Will correct myself 709 in the uk............anyone name the other 701 then.....no dont bother. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.105.105.115 (talk) 04:18, 16 November 2008 (UTC)Reply

DWP Longbenton

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RE: with the Department for Work and Pensions' Contributions Agency in nearby Longbenton also a major employer.

Where is the evidence of the DWP being one of the largest employers for people in Consett?


I have removed this statement as no evidence has been forthcoming. Michaeltyne 11:55, 5 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

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External Links should only refer to items referred to in the text - wikipedia is not merely a links directory but a user edited encyclopedia. Other links directories are available for use free of charge that will help promote sites or businesses. --Consett (talk) 03:51, 18 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

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External links to sites with only appropriate content should appear - sites with verifyable encycl. content are acceptable or if they are relevant to a topic discussed in the article. Commercial sites should be added to a search engine rather than turning this Wiki into a links harbour with the sole intention of increasing throughput / revenue.

image

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I found a nice image that might be suitable for this article. I'm not quite certain exactly what licence would be used, but the 'details' tab gives 'unrestricted' for re-use. Parrot of Doom (talk) 00:47, 8 December 2008 (UTC)Reply

Suggestion

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Too much of the article reads like ad copy. I'm sure it's a great place to hang out but Wikipedia is all about the nuetrallity. Lots42 (talk) 05:22, 28 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Notable people

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Were Rowan Atkinson's parents really Anglican farmers? That's farmers of Anglicans, just like sheep farmers are farmers of sheep, and so on with pig farmers, dairy farmers, arable farmers etc.

Yes, OK, I may be being silly, but that's how the line came across to me when I read it. BudgieJane (talk) 15:16, 7 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

Steel history, and accusations of 'political bias'

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Someone has done a real hatchet job on this page. For political reasons? Certainly, all the historical context and information on the Steel making history has gone. Almost reads as though the steelworks never existed. Dunwidda (talk) 12:44, 12 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

I can't believe that reference to the Coal Industry and Consett Ironworks and Steelworks has been removed from this page. It was the economic life-blood of the town from 1840 to 1980. Generations lived and died in their shadows. I worked there in the 70s. Are we to airbrush our history from our minds? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hardman-left (talkcontribs) 21:35, 3 November 2011 (UTC)Reply

A version of it is back up now. Let's see who takes it down. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hardman-left (talkcontribs) 22:34, 3 November 2011 (UTC)Reply

Any material that is not referenced to reliable sources is likely to be removed. Wikipedia does not work as "I know it is true, therefore here's what I know." It works like, "this is what this book/newspaper/journal article says about this topic." I agree that Consett's steel history is great important, but any additions must be referenced. I'm sure that if you care about the subject enough you will spend the time to find adequate references.
At this point we should mention that forums are not reliable sources. The JPStalk to me 10:55, 4 November 2011 (UTC)Reply

Indeed I will, and I will reference the points in that section to bona fide academic and news sources. However, some of us have to work for a living, and many of the better sources date back to the 1980s and it will take a little while to dig them up, so please leave the section up until I can get round to it. If anyone else wants to help please feel free. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hardman-left (talkcontribs) 22:40, 7 November 2011 (UTC)Reply

Consett Iron Theatre

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/* Culture */ The article by Consettlad which I keep removing, related to Consett Iron Theatre which is a Hoax article. Consett Iron Theatre never existed, also there is no History group named Consett History Society. The information on the site linked to is fake. There has been a thread about the article on Consett History forum. [1]

The reversions by Chesterlestreet and ConsettDramaHistory of the fake article are adding false information about the history of Consett.

I will be removing this once again, and if they have solid evidence that has remained elusive to those actually involved with the towns history, please come to the Consett History forum and discuss it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DrGummidge (talkcontribs) 18:39, 27 September 2012 (UTC)Reply

Both of the sites provided seem dubious. The picture on page 2 of Consett History Society is taken from Flickr and seems to be verifably (via other pictures) be the Tower Theatre in Los Angeles. Durham Theatre History Forum seems strange as well. It is a badly developed single page. It only discusses 3 (or 4) theatres in the whole county. One of these has only existed since 2002 so I dont see why it is of interest to an historic society. In the case of the other 2 (that verifably exist) much of the information disagrees with sources that Wikipedia would usually regard as more reliable.Pit-yacker (talk) 23:53, 3 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

Section blanked by IronTheatreTrust - I shall be adding a vandalism warning to their account. Twiceuponatime (talk) 08:14, 5 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

The people who are vandalising this article are DrGummidge and Pit-yacker who keep removing original research on this important work in local history. Who says you are the only experts on Consett's history? The fact that you find things "strange" doesn't make them wrong! Your comment about the Tower heatre in LA is nonsense. Are you the same people who censored the so-called "political" references to the old Steelworks (see above)? This work is due to be the subject of a book that is being prepared for publication. It's being written, I might add, by people rather more qualified that some of the amateurs and know-alls who presume to edit Wikipedia. Please STOP repeatedly removing this reference, otherwise we will report YOU for vandalism! ConsettIronHistory (talk) 18:48, 5 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

I don't claim to be an expert (or know nothing at all) about Consett or its history. However, I do have over 6 years of experience of Wikipedia policy, which says statements should be verifable using reliable sources. The sources presented thus far are not reliable. Anyone could have knocked something substantially better together in a couple of hours.
I also have a good bit of experience of tracking information down using the Internet. Fact is, the picture on your site is pretty verifably a theatre in Los Angeles (Here are some more photos of the same building [1], [2], [3] and [4]). Whilst I have heard of buildings being built to the same design, the chances of two different photograpers capturing identical pictures with different cameras in different buildings (in different countries) separated by almost 100-years is next to zero.
To me starts to wreak of it being a hoax. However, whether or not is a hoax is to some degree irrelevant as there aren't any reliable sources about the Iron Theatre - meaning it shouldn't be in the article anyway. Pit-yacker (talk) 22:52, 5 October 2012 (UTC)Reply
I've now semiprotected the page, to take the pressure from newly-created accounts off a bit. -- The Anome (talk) 22:49, 7 October 2012 (UTC)Reply
Resulting from this investigation, ConsettIronHistory and a number of other accounts have been blocked indefinitely for sock puppetry. Their previous arguments and edits should be ignored. De728631 (talk) 11:49, 11 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

References

Culture

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Overall Editing History of the Wikipedia entry for Consett

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Unsourced paragraph

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The paragraph starting "An alternative perspective" is completely unsourced conspiracy theory.

(There was a source in this paragraph, but it made no reference to Consett and so I removed it)

I will delete it unless anyone has any objections. Absolutelypuremilk (talk) 18:39, 28 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

This comment is utter nonsense. The deindustrialisation of the West and the industrialisation of the East to make higher profits is a standard analysis discussed by hundreds of academics and commentators - from Galbraith to Varoufakis - in hundreds of books, journal articles and newspaper articles. It is not a 'conspiracy theory'. Harvey's book is a well-known example, describing the general process that affected Consett and many other industrial towns and cities across the USA and Europe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.81.242.80 (talk) 21:16, 21 November 2015 (UTC)Reply

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Hornby connection?

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Is it worth adding to the 'Culture' section that for decades Hornby model railway manufacturers produced trucks marked 'Consett Iron Co Limited'?

It's probably the way most people outside of the region will have first heard about the place. Markaeologist (talk) 11:40, 18 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

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