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The Confederate States Never Surrendered.
editAs the Confederate States Never Surrendered, we should go by the end date of the last Confederate generals surrender. That would be June 23, 1865. That is why the south will rise again myth was shouted by Southerners for over 100 years. The claim from the South never Surrendered and would fight the Yankees again. Some cities in the South still had the confederate flag flying until the early 2000s. 72.105.174.146 (talk) 10:52, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Changing the map? Contested Native American territory
editMuch of Western Texas by the 1860s was under the control of the Comanche tribe under what some historians have called the empire of Comancheria. should we include this to show that the Confederacy did not fully control Western Texas by saying it is "Contested native territory" Genabab (talk) 14:25, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
Descriptions of the CSA as “the South” and Confederates as “Southerners” should be removed
edit1. The CSA, while in the South, was not synonymous with the South; the South was a region, the CSA was a breakaway state.
2. Not all Southerners supported or sided with the Confederacy.
3. Labeling the entire region and people of the South as the Confederacy could apply false stigma to non-Confederate southerners. LordOfWalruses (talk) 23:34, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- "Not all Southerners supported or sided with the Confederacy." The prominent exceptions were Delaware, Kentucky, Maryland, West Virginia, and Washington, D.C. traditional parts of the Southern United States which were members of the Union faction during the American Civil War. Dimadick (talk) 05:25, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- Well, LordOfWalruses, Confederates were Southerners. That not all Southerners were Confederates is another matter. But I have the feeling that you're only posting questions all over the place to get to 500 edits. Drmies (talk) 21:39, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- It’s not really “another matter” because like I and @Dimadick said, many Southerners did not support the Confederacy, and some even fought against the Confederacy (with West Virginia going as far as to secede from the Confederacy and return to the Union); the South is a region, the CSA was a breakaway state. They are not the same. LordOfWalruses (talk) 20:43, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- Well, LordOfWalruses, Confederates were Southerners. That not all Southerners were Confederates is another matter. But I have the feeling that you're only posting questions all over the place to get to 500 edits. Drmies (talk) 21:39, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
North Carolina seceded 19 days before Tennessee
editIt is never stated directly, but when the 11 states were being listed, they appear to be in order, that is, until Tennessee is mentioned before North Carolina. NC seceded May 20, 1861. TN seceded June 8, 1861. North Carolina joined May 21 and Tennessee on the same day (I think). I propose to swap the names when being listed (which is twice). Auser468 (talk) 22:17, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
Typo?
editEnglish isn't my first language.
"The Confederacy was composed of eleven U.S. states that declared secession; South Carolina, Mississippi, Florida, Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, Texas, Virginia, Arkansas, Tennessee, and North Carolina; they warred against the United States during the American Civil War."
I'm pretty sure it should be a colon instead of semicolon at start.
"The Confederacy was composed of eleven U.S. states that declared secession: South Carolina, Mississippi, Florida, Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, Texas, Virginia, Arkansas, Tennessee, and North Carolina; they warred against the United States during the American Civil War."
Yes? Thank you if so, sorry if not. 2A02:C7E:2F68:AC00:345E:29A7:308:41D1 (talk) 13:15, 1 November 2024 (UTC)