Talk:Combined driving

Latest comment: 2 months ago by Grorp in topic Page move, reverted

March 2010

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"Part of the challenge of combined driving is that the drivers may only communicate to their horses using their hands and voice."

Yet all of the pictures show whips and/or reins in the hands of the drivers.

The above statement is incorrect. Don't know where it came from. It should say that the challenge is in controlling the horses by only using voice, reins or whip, i.e. there's no physical contact like there is between the horse and a rider, who may their hands, legs and body to control the horse directly.

Of course, the other big challenge is being able to control 2 or more horses at the same time.

Vic (talk) 19:36, 2 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

Beats me how old that comment is, no one signed it...but you're doing good work here, I've been lurking on this article for quite some time and have no problems with your edits. Your info would be strengthened by footnotes that cite to the relevant sections of the FEI rules, but beyond that, I'm just sitting back here and appreciating what you do! Should you ever need a hand, pop over to WPEQ and ask for help! Montanabw(talk) 20:23, 2 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

Merge proposal

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I agree that Carriage driving should be merged into this article; while that article emphasizes the pleasure aspects of the sport, it seems to be talking about the FEI discipline.--Miniapolis (talk) 01:30, 4 November 2011 (UTC)Reply

I'd like to know more before we merge, I think that carriage driving is somewhat different, one of those things where I think combined driving is a form of carriage driving, but I think in Australia and the UK the competition is not identical to combined driving. Carriage driving also seems to be a bit like pleasure driving too. Maybe I can ask a couple of the Brits who are members of Wikiproject Equine to weigh in. Montanabw(talk) 00:54, 5 November 2011 (UTC)Reply

Evaluation of article and some fixes

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I gave this article a good bit of working-over.

  • Most of the citations are either stale (I updated some) or are simply external links that do not support/verify the content (I left them anyway).
  • Very little of the article has any citations at all. (That's gonna take some work to fix!)
  • I handled the bare-urls and removed that maintenance template, and tagged the article 'more citations needed'.
  • The 'Classification' section is full of esoteric lingo that doesn't serve the reader. If it is to remain in the article, it shouldn't be directly after the lead. (I put it nearer the bottom.)
  • I moved the 'Competitor' section up near the top, clarified the 'groom' section, and summarized the whole area. These are the basic elements of who and what competes in this type of competition.
  • I did some light copy editing to the phases section, the infobox, levels and points.
  • I lightened up the primary photo in Wikimedia commons so it's not as dark-shadowed. (Still not showing here; maybe it's a caching issue between commons and wikipedia.)
  • Moved around some of the photos; selected some new ones.
  • Put the World Cup and their winners sections together. Filled in a few years of missing winners and added a bunch of citations and verified winners (2015 & 2016 were wrong).
  • Recommendation: Find some sources that explain what are the World Championships (I was having no luck finding any), and put some content above the winners tables to explain what in the world that is. And somewhere it should get explained why the singles, pairs, 4-in-hand and ponies are not at the same venue at the same time. Only the national teams should get the little flag icon; individuals should just have the 3-letter country code. The four tables should have visually similar designs.
  • Recommendation: Create the article Glossary of horse driving terms.

Th-th-th-that's all, folks! Grorp (talk) 11:24, 15 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

Page move, reverted

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I have restored the original name of this article to "Combined driving" from the undiscussed "Driving (equestrian sport)". It appears it was done to shoehorn the generic word "Driving" into Template:Equestrian sports next to the label "FEI disciplines, non-Olympic", but that wasn't the correct solution as this article isn't intended to match FEI. The name of the sport within and without FEI (despite the existence of an FEI rulebook which simply calls it "Driving") is "combined driving". This article isn't intended to parallel "FEI Driving", even though there is some crossover. Maybe someone might create an article called FEI Driving. Whether or not that ever happens, this article is about the sport of combined driving and its variants.   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 16:22, 26 August 2024 (UTC)Reply