Talk:Chronic liver disease

Latest comment: 4 years ago by 59.6.160.174 in topic Aleternative science section makes no sense

Aleternative science section makes no sense

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Evidence does not support but homoeopathic medicine [chelidonium,cardus mar and bryonia alba] are useful and helpful in this condition herbal and antioxidant remedies.

The grammatical organization of this sentence makes no sense. It is not clear what the author wanted to say. The article cited in reference [5] says

Some herbal medicines seemed to have positive effects on aspartate aminotransferase, alanine aminotransferase, ultrasound, and computed tomography. We found no significant difference on adverse effects between herbal medicine and control groups. The findings are not conclusive due to the high risk of bias of the included trials and the limited number of trials testing individual herbal medicines. Accordingly, there is also high risk of random errors.

Which means some herbal treatments show positive effects but the error margin is very high, preventing any definitive conclusion.

I have modified the incriminated sentence while someone with more knowledge in medicine fixes it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.6.160.174 (talk) 07:06, 28 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

The last sentence of that section also seems strange. I checked the reference and it is a preprint by Nagah, Mohammed A, not a peer-reviewed article (yet). The author of the preprint also seems to be the person that added that sentence in the alternative medicine paragraph.

Regehep proved a great efficacy in curing the periportal fibrosis, competent regeneration of damaged liver cells and restoring the size, shape, outlines as well as echogenicity of the liver safely without serious side effects. It opens a new era for treatment of chronic liver diseases and providing hope for millions suffering from chronic liver disease.

I am removing that paragraph until someone with more medicine experience can fix it.

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS BULLSHIT SENTENCE???

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With liver disease, you only get one chance at life and that balance can easily be overturned by a toxic herb 

Hello, biased much?? Also the #1 PROVEN HERB to treat liver disease is MILK THISTLE which regenerates the liver. Look it up!

I have added some references to milk thistle under Alternative medicine; it is certainly regarded as first-line treatment by most herbalists and supplement experts, but there is some controversy over its effectiveness and safety.   Done D Anthony Patriarche (talk) 08:17, 30 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

Lancet commission

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... will need to get referenced doi:10.1016/S0140-6736(14)62263-7 (45 pages or thereabouts). JFW | T@lk 22:18, 29 November 2014 (UTC)Reply

No references

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This is a mess and needs references and organization to WP:MEDRS. Jrfw51 (talk) 20:56, 22 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

I gave it some medical attention today. It still can benefit from some more help! Jrfw51 (talk) 21:14, 6 October 2015 (UTC)Reply
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URL current as of 30 Nov. 2017. Looks like a very useful site, with many links. Might be worth adding to an External Links section.   Done D Anthony Patriarche (talk) 10:45, 30 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

Alternative medicine refs

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I have added to the section Alternative medicine a reference to a commercial site, LifeExtension. Although I would not normally use a commercial site as a reliable reference, this page seems to me to have a NPOV, packs much detail into one article, and fits well with information I have compared from other sources. D Anthony Patriarche (talk) 08:26, 30 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

P.S. I hope my additions give this section a more neutral POV; the previous version seemed rather biased and dismissive. While alternative medicine is often controversial, there are good, peer-reviewed papers on both sides, and WP should show balance with good refs for both standpoints. D Anthony Patriarche (talk) 10:27, 30 November 2017 (UTC)Reply