Talk:Cheshire, Connecticut

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Cheshire Academy has history on line at Cheshire Academy. Founded as Episcopal Academy of Connecticut in 1794. There's a lot of interesting stuff there, but I'm not sure how much belongs in an article on Cheshire.

I think the Geographic information has relevance; I'm not sure why it wasn't included. Most of that Census stuff is in almost every town wiki article. Admittedly not the greatest prose, but it doesn't qualify as clutter, imo.--BradPatrick 23:59, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

I'd watch much of what is written in the cultural area of this town's page; I moved here several years ago and noticed that its citizens tend to believe the town is much more significant than it really is in order to satisfy their egos. Hence Cheshire High's GREAT extracurriculars, nevermind that I went to said high school and realized the extracurriculars only appealed to those who didn't have to work. It's a beautiful town and a great place to live, but many of its people, such as those who would bother to change its wiki page, are full of themselves a bit too much. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.9.136.175 (talk) 09:00, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Removal of Tim White Listens

Tim White's Blog is a valid external link. The blog is a hub of online discussion for the residents of Cheshire. To the best of my knowledge it is the largest online community devoted to the township, and it hosts a wealth of town-related information. It is run by Councilman Tim White, but it's a neutral discussion ground with 30+ comments for many posts.

Also, no reason has been provided for the removal of the link.Craig Houghton 04:28, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

National records are inherently significant

Please stop vandalising the information about the CHS swim team. They haven't lost in 20 plus years...hello! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.14.84.60 (talk) 23:38, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Notable people

What's a Fatathon? What's a Bailathon? RJFJR (talk) 20:40, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Petit family murders

Why have you removed this recent tragedy from the page for Cheshire along with the fact that it was featured on Dateline NBC? The same program also featured a murder in Chandlerville, Illinois, and you allowed a similar post to be added to Chandlerville's page, but not Cheshire's. Why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.218.161.2 (talk) 15:40, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

I didn't remove anything, it was merged under Home invasion case in the History section. Didn't you view the article history? Markvs88 (talk) 16:38, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification. I saw the material relating to the Petit family murders as indicated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.90.46.34 (talk) 13:59, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

To pick this six-year-old discussion back up, I have recently simplified and heavily reduced the section discussing the Cheshire home invasion. The specific names of individuals involved are not particularly important, nor are the fates of the criminals involved. Cheshire is a town with over three centuries of history, yet the history section in this article (even after my reduction) is still about half-filled with arguably irrelevant details about a crime that took place about 9 years ago. Despite the extensive local coverage this case received, it constitutes a minuscule excerpt from Cheshire's history and is not particularly relevant to a general overview of the settlement's 320+ years. —Jgcoleman (talk) 16:11, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

Notable People and "Vandalism"

I'm not vandalizing, just have a legitimate position that John Hollstrom's name does not meet Wiki notability standards. See http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability Instead of accusing me of vandalism and threatening to ban me, why don't you defend your position in terms of Wiki standards? Who's to say that YOU are not vandalizing, or even that you are Mr. Hollstrom? His name has been off this list for several months now, and YOU keep adding it back. Liz Hale 17:38 29 September 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.203.49.238 (talk)

As long as John Holmstrom has an article, there isn't really a point to arguing here over whether he is notable. If you believe the subject is not notable, then you should request deletion of his article at WP:AfD. If the article is deleted due to a lack of notability, then he should be removed. As editors who have not registered for accounts cannot complete an WP:AfD listing, let me know if you want to go down that route and need help. Monty₈₄₅ 17:44, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Monty845, and as the John Holmstrom article now passes the "2 citation minimum", the issue should be moot. Best, Markvs88 (talk) 18:12, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Your points above are well taken, though in reviewing the history of the John Holmstrom page, it appears that Mr. Holmstrom himself has created most of it. Liz Hale 18:53 29 September 2011 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.203.49.238 (talk) 18:55, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Regarding Cheshire as part of the Farmington Valley

I've recently gone ahead and changed the declared region for Cheshire from "Central Farmington Valley" to "Central Quinnipiac Valley".

I'm not sure who originally decided to lump Cheshire into the Farmington Valley. One thing is for certain: the claim did not come from credible source material. The Farmington River certainly doesn't flow through Cheshire. Furthermore, the town is so distant from the river that it doesn't even fall within the Farmington's drainage basin. Suffice it to say that not a single drop of rain which falls on Cheshire ever makes it to the Farmington River. Thus, I cannot find any valid reason for considering Cheshire part of the Farmington Valley.

Moreover, the Quinnipiac River -a regionally significant river in its own right- does flow through the northeast corner of Cheshire and gathers a fair amount of water from the eastern side of town. The Wikipedia article for the Quinnipiac River even portrays Cheshire as squarely falling within the Quinnipiac Valley.

I've edited the infobox accordingly. —Jgcoleman (talk) 15:09, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Money Magazine Rankings

The references for both the 2009 and 2011 Money Magazine rankings are dead. That might not be a big deal for minor facts (sometimes links go dead without warning), but it is a big deal when the facts that those references were supporting are in the article's lead paragraph. In fact, its actually very tough to find functioning links online to any of those archival, annual Money Magazine lists.

• For one thing, the ephemeral nature of these lists online begs the question of whether or not Money Magazine's rankings are really significant enough to be lead material.
• Second, I've even gone back and found what appears to be a copy of the Money Magazine list from 2011... Cheshire doesn't seem to be present.

I have removed Money Magazine references from the lead for the time being because I cannot find any evidence that they are true. For a given fact to be lead paragraph material, there should be no question whatsoever about its validity... confirmation should be readily available via functioning citations. If live links can be found to this information, feel free to reincorporate the rankings. —Jgcoleman (talk) 15:43, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

References

Regarding Cheshire as a town of "Top Importance"

@Jacob Lanzer: I noticed that you've changed this article to be of "Top Importance" to WikiProject Connecticut. I grew up in Cheshire and I've contributed to this article fairly recently; it's a fairly good article as town articles go. That being said, I fail to see how Cheshire meets the criteria for "Top Importance". From an observational perspective, anybody from Connecticut would naturally question attributing that level of importance to Cheshire. But even from a purely technical standpoint, towns/cities of "Top Importance" in WikiProject Connecticut are described as being of "national importance or of critical importance to the state". It is even suggested that "Top Importance" towns/cities should be limited to the "top 10 cities in the state". Can you offer any objective reason for your change from "High Importance" to "Top Importance"? —Jgcoleman (talk) 01:11, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

@Jgcoleman: I apologize for my actions, I think my pride for Cheshire may have caused a bias, for which I apologize. I think you can reädjust it to how you see fit. Apologies. Jacob Lanzer (talk) 01:42, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: Sainsf (talk · contribs) 07:00, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

Will review this soon. Cheers, Sainsf (talk · contribs) 07:00, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

General

• Two copyvio concerns, appear to be copy-pastes: [1] [2]
• Fix this link [3]

Lead

• Looking at the article length, the lead should be at least two good paras long per WP:MOSLEAD

History

• hardened analog L4 carrier cable (coax) Wikilinks would be helpful
• home invasion (see Cheshire, Connecticut, home invasion murders) Simply link "home invasion" to the bracketed link
• mother Jennifer and daughters Hayley and Michaela Petit Seems an odd way to put it, simply say "a mother and her two daughters". And who is William in the family?
• Source for his accomplice Joshua Komisarjevsky was convicted of the murders and other crimes in October 2011?

Demographics

• Place ref. 12 at the end of each para if that is the sole source for the section. It ensures verifiability.
• Has there not been a more recent census?
• For every 100 females age 18 and over "aged". Check for similar cases

Geography

• Source for the 2nd para?

Climate

• Needs an introduction. See GAs on places, you will find an intro to Climate that describes the seasons and general weather.

Politics

• Link split-ticket to split-ticket voting
• Mention "President Bush" by his proper name
• There are many short sentences that break the flow.
• Source for the last line of the first para?

Arts and culture

• Why say "Museums and other points of interest" when only a museum is mentioned? Are there no other points?
• I don't think locations are needed for the NRHPs, links are enough

Parks and recreation

• The section needs to be rewritten properly. I would recommend merging with the previous section so that all points of interest are listed at one place and are in a systematic order, with every point sourced.

Education

• Once again, each part needs a source

Transportation

• Source for last line?

Prison system

• These prisons explain the city's skewed male/female ratios How? I hope this is not OR?

Notable people

• Each point will need a source

Sources

• Many of the refs. need proper formatting, don't keep bare URLs
• Don't give website names as publishers. Give proper names of the organizations.

Copyright violations

In response to a request on my talk page I checheck two suspected instances of copyright violation in the article and removed them. I was able to prove conclusively using the Wayback Machine that both of these passages were copied from the source web pages rather than the other way around. I've not yet done the revision-deletion so as to afford you the opportunity to put the material into your own words. Please do this immediately. Please read the information I have placed on your user talk page about copyright and how it applies to Wikipedia. — Diannaa (talk) 14:04, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

Closing note

The review has remained open for over a week without any response, and there are a large number of issues. I am going to fail this for now, but hope to see it renominated soon after the necessary changes are made. Sainsf (talk · contribs) 07:43, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

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"Mallory's Salmon Town"

@Aprezioso24: I don't understand this edit here. Was Cheshire originally known as "Mallory's Salmon Town?" Jarble (talk) 16:09, 3 March 2020 (UTC)