Talk:Cheb

Latest comment: 16 years ago by Karasek in topic Population or Majority

March 2006

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There are three other uses for the word 'Cheb', so I've added a disambiguation page for the word. --Beefy_SAFC 18:15, 15 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

I have just translated and incorporated the information from the German wikipedia article Eger; please feel free to run through and add/correct information as you see fit! Aquilina 00:35, 30 March 2006 (UTC)Reply


I think there should be something about the pre-German settlement - the Slavs around 9th century and probably Celts before that. Also, it is usually claimed Cheb was permanently attached to Bohemian kingdom in 1322 and not 1350. --Jirka6 18:52, 25 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

I think there should be something about Jiri from Podebrady in the History section. And what is "Friends of Central Europe"? There is no link to it.

I removed the reference to Friends of Central Europe, this article was the only hit google returned for that phrase. --Jirka6 05:54, 9 January 2007 (UTC)Reply


I removed the following part:

Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, Cheb has held the horrific distinction of being the child sex capital of Europe. The sex slave traffic in children, and Cheb's notorious leading role in the commercial sexual exploitation of children, are described in nauseating detail by author Gordon Thomas in his piece titled Captive market:The sexual slave traffic in children in the Canadian Free Press.

although this was claimed several times on various German TV stations, there was only one or two proven cases (12-14 year old girls). Of course, I am biased, since I was born there, there might be some child sex sold, and there is definitely a lot of prostitution (as in all Czech regions close to Germany), but it is definitely not as widespread as this paragraph suggests. --Jirka6 05:37, 9 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

lien

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2008-04-07T19:09:35 Tulkolahten (Talk | contribs) (16,319 bytes) (rv to NPOV) (undo)

Actually, Cheb was given as an inheritable lien to John the Blind by the Emperor. And as far as I know formally it stayed like that till 1850 or so. I do not think there is anything POV about that. It's true that in practical terms there was no diff. between the lien and other parts of Bohemia. Can anybody suggest any reasonable references forr this? --Jirka6 (talk) 05:13, 8 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

What? Why?

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The article says:

On 2001-08-24, German Chancellor Gerhard Schröder and Czech Prime Minister Miloš Zeman visited the Euregio Egrensis (a cross-border initiative between districts in Bavaria, Saxony, Thuringia and Bohemia), and received the Freedom of the City of Cheb.

The two guys received the Freedom of the City of Cheb? What is that? If nobody explains that (and also explains how it is important) I will remove it. --Jirka6 (talk) 03:57, 14 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

Population or Majority

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User:Udibi changed the word population to majority in this sentence:

Under the Beneš decrees of the same year, the German-speaking population of the town was dispossessed and expelled to Germany.

While I am Czech and a native of Cheb, I think it should be population. Majority suggest something like 60-40 or even 80-20. But if I am not mistaken in 1930's only about 300 of the 45000 or so inhabitants were ethnic Czechs. And most of them were governmental employees (post-officers, soldiers etc.) So I would say that Cheb was nearly 100% German speaking. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jirka6 (talkcontribs) 04:01, 20 June 2008 (UTC)Reply

I see - the article says that in 1930 there were about 11% of Czechs. I saw very different numbers (about 10 times smaller), I think it was about 1935, the problem is it was a booklet accompanying an exhibition called something like Disappeared Sudetenland and it was organized by Germans, probably Sudetendeutsche, so it might have been biased. Anyways, we should provide citations for these numbers. --Jirka6 (talk) 04:13, 20 June 2008 (UTC)Reply
I appreciate your sincere desire for an accurate depiction of the situation. Perhaps there is a linguistic issue going on here. As a native English speaker, "the German-speaking population of the town was dispossessed and expelled to Germany" is a bit vague and implies that the German-speaking population was a minority. Perhaps there is a better way to phrase it that we can all understand in the same way... Udibi (talk) 06:55, 20 June 2008 (UTC)Reply
I see. I did not realize that it sounds that way to native speakers. I thought it is just the opposite. In the spring of 1945, virtually all inhabitants of Cheb were German speaking (the ethnic Czechs left/were expelled when it was attached to Germany in 1938). --Jirka6 (talk) 18:30, 23 June 2008 (UTC)Reply
According to this site the city had 25.120 Germans and 3.496 Czechs in 1930. Karasek (talk) 08:29, 26 June 2008 (UTC)Reply