Talk:Charlyne Yi
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Pronouns?
editI saw a few recent articles that showed Yi with they/them pronouns, while older ones show she/her. Is there a source that show what Yi actually uses/prefers? Robtcore (talk) 13:50, 10 May 2021 (UTC)robtcore
- I've seen recent articles (the ones about her criticism of Franco and Rogen) that use she/her pronouns. Yi's Instagram account used to have "they/she" in the bio, but otherwise I haven't been able find a source that shows what Yi uses or prefers. People keep changing the pronouns on this page without properly sourcing where they're getting this info from, so it would be nice to get a consensus on what Yi's pronouns actually are. Dog Starkiller (talk) 05:35, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Correct Age?
editAge shown on Wikipedia as 22 (born 1986), but 32 on her MySpace page. Which one is correct?--CheMechanical 05:50, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Age quoted as 21 in Daily Bulletin article by David Allen: http://www.dailybulletin.com/davidallen/ci_6803552--CheMechanical 05:54, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
B-day stated as 1976 by IMDB. Linked Variety article says 20 years old at the time. http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117960233.html?categoryid=2453&cs=1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.36.188.253 (talk) 07:03, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
Should it be mentioned that she was a finalist for the Andy Kaufman award? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.88.249.22 (talk) 17:56, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Most of the article interviews state she's in her early 20's for example: http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2009/01/sundance-update.html http://articles.latimes.com/2007/may/31/news/wk-yi31 Why would anyone trust myspace? My 12 year old cousin is 81 according to myspace. --PeaceIt (talk) 19:43, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
- Insider actually comments on the 20 v 30 (which I guess is now 30 v 40) controversy:
- Schwarzbaum, Lisa (21 January 2009). "Sundance update: Charlyne Yi's joke is on me". Hollywood Insider. Archived from the original on 24 January 2009.
Never trust Wikipedia, or Facebook, or people who say that Bride Wars is actually about brides: Charlyne Yi is in her early 20s, not her early 30s.
- This links back to an article from the previous date, although by the time archive.org got to it she had already added a strikethrough to the statement I'll quote here:
- Schwarzbaum, Lisa (20 January 2009). "Sundance: Is it love or is it 'love'?". Hollywood Insider. Archived from the original on 23 January 2009.
I was totally, weirdly charmed by Paper Heart, a sweet/funny, half real and half fake, half drama and half documentary riff on love, starring and co-created by honorary girl-among-guys geek cutie Charlyne Yi. Yi's got her own thing going as a stand-up comic, performance artist, musician, and actor (acting stoned, she stole hearts in Knocked Up). Plus, she's an ace maker of puppets. And working with director Nicholas Jasenovec (with whom she co-wrote the script), she puts all those things together. The premise (based on truth or fiction, we'll never know), is that Yi (or is it a fictional "Yi"?) doesn't believe in love. She doesn't think she's wired for the emotion. So she (played by herself) and her director (played by Jake Johnson, just to mess with our heads) travel across America interviewing real people about the condition. In the course of which, at a local party, she meets Michael Cera (or is it "Michael Cera"?), and for a while the two fall into a shy romantic relationship. Which is documented, as part of Yi's movie project, by the "director."
The real folks Yi interviews -- long-married couples, a pool-playing divorced gentleman, scientists, a big, grizzly dude in a biker bar, little kids -- are amazing in that way that only Americans have of being utterly direct and at ease in front of a stranger's camera and microphone; then Yi ups the artistry by translating their stories into puppet-driven tableaux. But the stuff between Yi and Cera is equally riveting, not least because the two sustain their personas as "Yi" and "Cera," a "dating couple," with such sharp discipline. (Are they or have they ever really, really been an item? I really really don't know, and I like that I don't.)
On some other blog, in some other non-Sundance universe, I'd have a fine time analyzing the sexless, squeaky, bespectacled, thrift-shop-couture tomboyishness Yi has adopted as her feminine projection.(In fact, this "little girl" is a woman in her early 30s.)On this blog, my heart belongs to Michael and Charlyne, sittin' on a couch, k-i-s-s-i-n-g as the camera rolls and Paper Heart tears at the borders between the public and the private, the staged and the sincere.
- That's RESPONSIBLE followup on errors, weird how Hollywood Insider was probably performing at a better standard in 2009 than major news outlets are today. Her reference to "Yi's joke" on the 21st probably indicates that Li stated her age as around a decade older as some kind of joke on both her MySpace (remember that?) in 2007 and Tumblr in 2010. Special:Diff/125798239 shows that on 25 April 2007 someone added the 4jan86 stat. It was changed 30 May 2007 then reverted back 14 June 2007. Can we find the earliest archive of this being on MySpace? 70.51.193.44 (talk) 07:26, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
According to this: http://charlyneyi.tumblr.com/post/1657155290/how-old-are-you-wiki-says-24-but-your-myspace-says, she is 34. This is her tumblr and she is answering the question herself, so I think it's safe to say she is 34, unless she was joking? Why would she agree to be in an article about being under 25 if she isn't under 25? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.255.162.173 (talk) 12:40, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
- That URL has expired. Here is an archived citation:
- Yi, Charlyne (23 November 2010). "How old are you? Wiki says 24 but your myspace says 34". Tumblr.com. Archived from the original on 17 July 2011.
I was born in Jan 4, 1976. I'm 34.
I'll add it to the article.Actually in exploring the sources, 2 support 86 and 2 support 87, so I've added them and I guess we could explore how Hollywood Reporter was misled by wrong information on Wikipedia, possibly from a MySpace/Tumblr joke from Yi herself. Can we verify if she operates those accounts? 70.51.193.44 (talk)
Women. Correct age. Pick one.99.245.254.49 (talk) 01:52, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
Heritage/Descent
editFirst line of article...
"Charlyne Amanda Yi[1] (born January 4, 1986)[1] is a Chinese-Filipino-American actress, "
But the "Early Life" section does not reference any Chinese lineage.
"Yi was born in Los Angeles, California. Her mother, a native of the Philippines, is of Filipino and Spanish descent[citation needed], and her father is of Mexican, Korean, Irish, German, French, and Native American ancestry." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.9.64.4 (talk) 04:12, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- Basically: an American. Somebody had already removed those lines, but forgot to remove all the fractional ethnicity categories. Done.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 03:22, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
Assessment comment
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I believe that the Charlyne Yi page should be kept because she is a comedic genius and is breaking out into the comedy scene as well as the big screen. She's working on a pilot with Steve Coogan as of now with U NBC. |
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4 sources to narrow date of birth
editIgnoring the dead "Family Tree Legends" which should probably be removed...
- LaPorte, Nicole (31 May 2007). "Suddenly, Yi is sitting pretty". LA Times.
Yi's fortune turned pretty quickly considering the Fontana native is only 21
- Saba, Michael (30 September 2009). "Charlyne Yi: Geek Love". Paste (magazine).
23-year-old Charlyne Yi is a real-world version
- Boyd, Betsy (27 February 2007). "10 Comics to Watch - Charlyne Yi". Variety.com. Archived from the original on 2 May 2014.
Yi's surreal comedic vision is unlike anything anything else. In fact, she's already being compared to Andy Kaufman and Pee-wee Herman — unique performers with whom the 20-year-old daughter of a Spanish-Filipino mother and a half-Korean, half-Irish-German-French-Native American dad is only vaguely familiar.
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suggested) (help) - Chang, Elysha (24 October 2017). "David Cross, Charlyne Yi, and the Luxury of Forgetting". gq.com.
At a party in 2007, David Cross made fun of a 20-year-old Charlyne Yi's pants.
They could ALL be right. The facts from these are:
- 21 years old in May 2007
- 23 years old in September 2009
- 20 years old in February 2007 (w/ another source saying 20 in 2007, moot point)
Someone could be 20 in February and 21 in May if their birthday fell between those two points. Being 23 by September 2009 would follow in due course.
The problem here is that Yi's date of birth would have to fall someplace between February 28, 1986 and May 31, 1986. January 4th does not fall within that 3 months span so I'm heavily skeptical about the claim this is her birthday. Pretty sure anybody can add info to FTL so I don't know if there's a guarantee that it was actually her or a reliable source who added the January 4th birthday.
Based on the Boyd/LaPorte interaction, it would seem to support being born in 86 and not 87, but only if you accept the premise that January 4 is the wrong birth date. 70.51.193.44 (talk) 07:45, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
Pronouns
editThere is a discussion about Yi's pronouns at the top of this page, and there seem to be three different conclusions: They/Them, They/She, and She/Her. My view is that if we don't know, the best course of action is to keep the non-gendered pronouns as the article currently uses. If they are changed I will revert these changes, please don't start an edit war, contact me here. Cassie Schebel, almost a savant. <3 (talk) 00:29, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
- Correct. They/them are their chosen pronouns, according to their official website, which is an allowed source for this (WP:SELFSOURCE): https://charlyne-yi.com/ -kotra (talk) 22:23, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
Grammar
editI tried to read the beginning of this page, and it was unreadable...then I realized what was happening. The grammatical errors are to many to list. It's really a bad joke when plural pronouns are used for a single person. Very sad to see education and the english language being destroyed. 68.186.243.77 (talk) 00:59, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
- While I agree, it's weird when people want to correct grammar/spelling, but fail to use proper grammar/spelling themselves... 2003:D5:D721:3700:C507:68A8:AF48:CB87 (talk) 21:34, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
"Alleged"
editYi has expressed disdain for the use of the word "alleged" to undermine or disrespect abuse victims telling their stories, so I think the best course of action is to make it clear that these things are not necessarily proven (ie. no one has been convicted), without the use of this word. Per Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons, I think this is the way to be simultaneously factual, neutral, and respectful. A direct quote may serve this purpose better. With Love from Cassie Schebel (talk) 14:41, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
Thats not how things work. Things are "alleged" until proven. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:72e2:a860:2823:1f9d:556e:b505 (talk) 17:27, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
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Charlyne Yi goes by Lo/LoLo as per her official instagram, other social medias, and recent interviews. https://www.instagram.com/charlyne_yi/ https://charlyneyi.bandcamp.com/ 67.162.72.154 (talk) 18:54, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
Nothing about her appearance as Azrael in the Netflix series Lucifer
editShe acted as the angel of death, Azrael, and appeared in several episodes 2601:183:C700:3500:414A:BB49:40AB:D395 (talk) 02:02, 23 November 2024 (UTC)