Talk:Charlie Ergen

Gambling

Is that section really encyclopedic?--RedmondKane (talk) 22:16, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 2 external links on Charlie Ergen. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

• Added {{dead link}} tag to http://topics.wsj.com/person/E/charles-ergen/861
• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20140203050439/http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2002/09/02/327891/ to http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2002/09/02/327891/
• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20140130023633/http://commencement.wfu.edu/graduation-exercises/charlie-ergen/ to http://commencement.wfu.edu/graduation-exercises/charlie-ergen/

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

• If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
• If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 06:09, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

Proper capitalization

Hi Wikipedia. I'm new to this but hoping to help out. Full disclosure, see my profile for conflicts of interest (COI). My goal is to help this page be factual and neutral.

One simple update is to ensure proper capitalization on the entry. A few suggestions below:

All references to the company or brand should be "DISH" in all caps.

All references to EchoStar should have a capital "S" in the middle of the word.

Co-founder Jim DeFranco should have a capital "F" in his last name. He is referenced in the section "EchoStar" See here for spelling reference: http://about.dish.com/Jim-DeFranco

--Editor4Good (talk) 20:40, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Reply 09-MAY-2018

DeFranco and EchoStar were corrected. The other capitalization's stand as is, per MOS:TM. Excess wiki-links for EchoStar removed, per WP:OVERLINK CRISIS.  .spintendo⋅⋅) 20:08, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Update: Photo, Summary Box, Title, Ownership, Net Worth and Awards

With COI stated in my profile, I am suggesting the following edits to update factual information. I've provided existing text and suggested updates with citations. I ask editors to please consider and implement. Thanks --Editor4Good (talk) 00:15, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Extended content

Existing Opening Paragraph Charles William "Charlie" Ergen (born March 1, 1953) is an American businessman and is the co-founder and current Chairman of the Board, and former President and CEO of Dish Network and EchoStar Communications Corporation. He stepped down as CEO in May 2011 in favor of Joseph Clayton. He remains Chairman of the Board of both companies. Ergen resumed as CEO upon Clayton's March 31, 2015 retirement. Ergen owns 52 percent of Dish and EchoStar shares and holds 88 percent of its total voting power.[1][3][4][5][6][7] With an estimated 2014 net worth of $17B, Ergen is reportedly the wealthiest person in Colorado.[8] Suggested Edits to Opening Paragraph Charles William "Charlie" Ergen (born March 1, 1953) is an American businessman and is the co-founder and current Chairman of the Board, and former President and CEO of Dish Network and EchoStar Corporation. He stepped down as CEO of Dish in May 2011 in favor of Joseph Clayton. Ergen resumed as CEO upon Clayton's March 31, 2015 retirement and served as CEO until December 5, 2017 when he promoted President and COO Erik Carlson to CEO so that Ergen could focus on Dish's emerging wireless business as Chairman. Ergen owns 48 percent of Dish and 46 percent of Echostar shares. He and holds 78 percent of DISH’s and 72 percent of EchoStar’s total voting power. Ergen has an estimated 2018 net worth of $13.4B. In 2017, Ergen was listed as the richest person in Colorado . Photo Add photo from here to page: https://s3.amazonaws.com/filecache.drivetheweb.com/mr5mr_dish/178418/Charlie%20Ergen.jpg Summary Box Existing Occupation: Chairman of Dish Network Suggested Occupation: Chairman of Dish Network and EchoStar Corporation Existing Awards In June 1991, Ergen was named ‘Master Entrepreneur of the Year’ for the Rocky Mountain region by INC Magazine. Two years prior, he had been honoured with a Home Satellite TV Association Star Award. Ergen played a key role in fighting for American consumers’ rights to watch local television channels via satellite, which became a reality after the Satellite Home Viewer Improvement Act was passed in 1999. He has been an advocate of video competition issues and testified before the Congress, in this regard, on numerous occasions. He was recognized with a Rocky Mountain News’ Business Person of the Year Award in 1996, and honoured a second time in 2001.[40][41] Ergen also won the Frost & Sullivan 2001 CEO of the Year of the Satellite Industry. In 2000 he was named ‘Space Industry Business Man of the Year.’ Ergen was named one of the ‘World’s Best CEOs’ by Barron’s magazine in 2007. He was also mentioned in Forbes Magazine ‘Top Ten CEOs’ list. Ergen co-founded the Satellite Broadcasting and Communications Association.[40][41] Suggested Edits to Awards In June 1991, Ergen was named ‘Master Entrepreneur of the Year’ for the Rocky Mountain region by INC Magazine. Two years prior, he had been honoured with a Home Satellite TV Association Star Award. Ergen played a key role in fighting for American consumers’ rights to watch local television channels via satellite, which became a reality after the Satellite Home Viewer Improvement Act was passed in 1999. He has been an advocate of video competition issues and testified before the Congress, in this regard, on numerous occasions. He was recognized with a Rocky Mountain News’ Business Person of the Year Award in 1996, and honoured a second time in 2001.[40][41] Ergen also won the Frost & Sullivan 2001 CEO of the Year of the Satellite Industry. In 2000 he was named ‘Space Industry Business Man of the Year.’ Ergen was named one of the ‘World’s Best CEOs’ by Barron’s magazine in 2007. He was also mentioned in Forbes Magazine ‘Top Ten CEOs’ list. He was in the 2012 class of inductees to the Consumer Electronics Hall of Fame. Ergen co-founded the Satellite Broadcasting and Communications Association.[40][41] References Reply quote box with inserted reviewer decisions and feedback 22-MAY-2018 Below you will see where text from your request has been quoted with individual advisory messages placed underneath, either accepting, declining or otherwise commenting upon your proposal(s). Please see the enclosed notes for additional information about each request. .spintendo  19:34, 22 May 2018 (UTC) Charles William "Charlie" Ergen (born March 1, 1953) is an American businessman and is the co-founder and current Chairman of the Board, and former President and CEO of Dish Network and EchoStar Corporation. He stepped down as CEO of Dish in May 2011 in favor of Joseph Clayton. Ergen resumed as CEO upon Clayton's March 31, 2015 retirement and served as CEO until December 5, 2017 when he promoted President and COO Erik Carlson to CEO so that Ergen could focus on Dish's emerging wireless business as Chairman.  Approved. ___________ Ergen owns 48 percent of Dish[2] and 46 percent of Echostar shares.[3] He and holds 78 percent of DISH’s[4] and 72 percent of EchoStar’s[5] total voting power.  Not approved. ___________ Ergen has an estimated 2018 net worth of $13.4B.[6] In 2017, Ergen was listed as the richest person in Colorado.  Not approved. ___________ Photo Add photo from here to page: https://s3.amazonaws.com/filecache.drivetheweb.com /mr5mr_dish/178418/Charlie%20Ergen.jpg  Unable to implement. ___________ Summary Box Suggested Occupation: Chairman of Dish Network and EchoStar Corporation.  Approved. ___________ Suggested Edits to Awards: In June 1991, Ergen was named ‘Master Entrepreneur of the Year’ for the Rocky Mountain region by INC Magazine. Two years prior, he had been honoured with a Home Satellite TV Association Star Award. Ergen played a key role in fighting for American consumers’ rights to watch local television channels via satellite, which became a reality after the Satellite Home Viewer Improvement Act was passed in 1999. He has been an advocate of video competition issues and testified before the Congress, in this regard, on numerous occasions. He was recognized with a Rocky Mountain News’ Business Person of the Year Award in 1996, and honoured a second time in 2001. Ergen also won the Frost & Sullivan 2001 CEO of the Year of the Satellite Industry. In 2000 he was named ‘Space Industry Business Man of the Year.’ Ergen was named one of the ‘World’s Best CEOs’ by Barron’s magazine in 2007. He was also mentioned in Forbes Magazine ‘Top Ten CEOs’ list. He was in the 2012 class of inductees to the Consumer Electronics Hall of Fame.[8] Ergen co-founded the Satellite Broadcasting and Communications Association.  Not approved. ___________

Reply on 29-MAY-2018 with updated edits from COI editor based on feedback from 22-MAY-2018

Below are corrections/additions as a reply to @Spintendo: based on feedback. I'm requesting that these proposed edits be implemented (now with proper citation and slight modification).

1. Ergen owns 48 percent of Dish and 46 percent of Echostar shares. He holds 78 percent of DISH’s and 72 percent of EchoStar’s total voting power.
   1. Note: The references have been updated to include page numbers from the filings.
2. Ergen has an estimated 2018 net worth of $13.4B.[6] In 2017, Ergen was listed as the richest person in Colorado.
3. Suggest the following edit and updated reference: Ergen has an estimated 2018 net worth of $13.4 billion as of March 6, 2018.
   1. I also suggest that this figure be updated in the Summary Box to be more up to date, based upon the same reference. Note: I removed the state-specific text that was unavailable at that reference.
4. Suggested Edits to Awards: In June 1991, Ergen was named ‘Master Entrepreneur of the Year’ for the Rocky Mountain region by INC Magazine. Two years prior, he had been honoured with a Home Satellite TV Association Star Award. Ergen played a key role in fighting for American consumers’ rights to watch local television channels via satellite, which became a reality after the Satellite Home Viewer Improvement Act was passed in 1999. He has been an advocate of video competition issues and testified before the Congress, in this regard, on numerous occasions. He was recognized with a Rocky Mountain News’ Business Person of the Year Award in 1996, and honoured a second time in 2001. Ergen also won the Frost & Sullivan 2001 CEO of the Year of the Satellite Industry. In 2000 he was named ‘Space Industry Business Man of the Year.’ Ergen was named one of the ‘World’s Best CEOs’ by Barron’s magazine in 2007. He was also mentioned in Forbes Magazine ‘Top Ten CEOs’ list. He was in the 2012 class of inductees to the Consumer Electronics Hall of Fame. Ergen co-founded the Satellite Broadcasting and Communications Association.
   1. Note: The reference has been updated to be directly from the CEA (now named CTA).
5. Photo Add photo from here to page: https://s3.amazonaws.com/filecache.drivetheweb.com /mr5mr_dish/178418/Charlie%20Ergen.jpg

I am working to upload with the proper permissions. Thank you for your guidance on the proper way to do that.

Editor4Good (talk) 22:10, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

References

Reply quote box with inserted reviewer decisions and feedback 14-JUN-2018

Below you will see where text from your request has been quoted with individual advisory messages placed underneath, either accepting, declining or otherwise commenting upon your proposal(s). Please see the enclosed notes for additional information about each request. Additionally, several areas of text within the article were omitted, including individual company acquisitions by Dish Network (which are covered in that article) as well as employee quotes and other irrelevant, anecdotal information concerning the subject, information that was largely copied from a Bloomberg profile article by Caleb Hannan.  spintendo  00:13, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Ergen owns 48 percent of Dish and 46 percent of Echostar shares. He holds 78 percent of DISH’s and percent of EchoStar’s total voting power.
 Approved.

___________
Ergen has an estimated 2018 net worth of $13.4B.
 Approved.

___________
In 2017, Ergen was listed as the richest person in Colorado.
 Not approved.

___________
Suggest the following edit and updated reference: Ergen has an estimated 2018 net worth of $13.4 billion as of March 6, 2018.
 Approved.

___________
I also suggest that this figure be updated in the Summary Box to be more up to date, based upon the same reference.
 Approved.

___________
Suggested Edits to Awards: In June 1991, Ergen was named ‘Master Entrepreneur of the Year’ for the Rocky Mountain region by INC Magazine. Two years prior, he had been honoured with a Home Satellite TV Association Star Award. Ergen played a key role in fighting for American consumers’ rights to watch local television channels via satellite, which became a reality after the Satellite Home Viewer Improvement Act was passed in 1999. He has been an advocate of video competition issues and testified before the Congress, in this regard, on numerous occasions. He was recognized with a Rocky Mountain News’ Business Person of the Year Award in 1996, and honoured a second time in 2001. Ergen also won the Frost & Sullivan 2001 CEO of the Year of the Satellite Industry. In 2000 he was named ‘Space Industry Business Man of the Year.’ Ergen was named one of the ‘World’s Best CEOs’ by Barron’s magazine in 2007. He was also mentioned in Forbes Magazine ‘Top Ten CEOs’ list. Ergen co-founded the Satellite Broadcasting and Communications Association.
 Not approved.

___________
He was in the 2012 class of inductees to the Consumer Electronics Hall of Fame.
 Approved.

___________
Photo Add photo from here to page
 Unable to implement.

___________

Incorrect / seems like Vandalism

I am new at this, but just happened to notice that in the latest set of edits to this page, under occupation it says: "to be fired"

Also in the "Dish" section take a look at the last sentence:

Sometime in 2019 Dish Network is prepping to fire Mr. Ergen as he is not helping dish customers at all and after several complaints and most recently the dispute between fox regional sports and altitude

Obvious Vandalism.

PilotJeff (talk) 19:04, 18 September 2019 (UTC)PilotJeff

Deleted.--Imanotherhuman (talk) 11:57, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Updates for infobox

Hello, my name is Caroline. As an employee of DISH, I am here to suggest improvements and updates to this article. I'll avoid editing the article directly and will disclose my conflict of interest openly when submitting requests for editors to review.

I request editors consider updating the |occupation= and |known_for= parameters.

• Update |occupation= to: "Chairman of DISH Network and EchoStar Corporation 1998-present"

• Reason: The article now says 1998-2019. However, Charlie Ergen is still chairman of DISH and EchoStar. Also DISH is capitalized per brand standards.

• Update |known_for= to: "Co-founder of satellite television provider DISH Network"

• Reason: Change would capitalize "DISH" and clarify that it is a satellite television provider

Thanks!

References

CK-DISH (talk) 18:34, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

@CK-DISH: The requested updates have been made, except for the capitalizing. The Forbes source uses DISH once and Dish several times. Dish Network also mixes the two, so I'm not making that change, until I learn more about Wikipedia's conventions for that. -- Yae4 (talk) 19:13, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

Hi Yae4. Thanks for resolving this! CK-DISH (talk) 16:15, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Typo

Hello again! Currently, the "Personal life" section has a typo, in the first paragraph. Can someone please change "Ergen received a Bachelor of Arts from the University of Tennessee at Knoxville, where he was a member of Phi Gamma Delta fraternity. and an M.B.A. from Wake Forest University." to "Ergen received a Bachelor of Arts from the University of Tennessee at Knoxville, where he was a member of Phi Gamma Delta fraternity, and an M.B.A. from Wake Forest University.". Replacing the period in the middle of the sentence with a comma will fix the problem. I realize this is an easy fix but I'm not editing the page myself because I work for DISH. @Yae4: Would you consider resolving this on my behalf? Thanks, CK-DISH (talk) 23:25, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

References

Hi, The punctuation is a small thing, but two other issues stand out when looking at the cited sources here. First, the 2nd source (at dish) gives a 404 error, which should also be fixed. Second, the first source has significant criticism. When I look at the article overall, it seems unbalanced in that regard. So, the period/comma is easy to fix, but I'd also appreciate some suggestions on making the article more balanced while I'm at it. -- Yae4 (talk) 13:47, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

@Yae4: Yes, I agree there is more to be done to bring this article up to date and properly balanced. I thought the typo was an easy fix as I work to put together more substantive proposals for improvement. I will work on those and give you a heads up as I post them. In the meantime, this source, which is currently Reference No. 1 in the article, can replace the dead link you noted. Thanks, CK-DISH (talk) 15:45, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Citation needed

Hello again! A recent edit replaced a blacklisted source verifying Charlie Ergen's roles as co-founder and chairman of DISH Network with a "citation needed" tag. There are many sources that verify this information, so I offer a few for Wikipedia editors to consider. As an employee of DISH, I am here to suggest improvements and updates to this article. I'll avoid editing the article directly and will disclose my conflict of interest openly when submitting requests for editors to review.

• Reuters: Dish co-founder Ergen steps down from CEO role to focus on wireless, December 5, 2017
• CNET: T-Mobile's $26.5B Sprint megamerger clears major legal hurdle, February 11, 2020
• Forbes: Charlie Ergen, 2020

While editors are considering that update to the introduction, I would suggest adding context to the fourth sentence regarding Charlie Ergen's 2017 decision to step down as CEO. My proposed addition (in green) reflects Ergen's reasoning, as reported by Reuters. I should note that I updated the citation's formatting and added a ref name. "Ergen resumed as CEO upon Clayton's March 31, 2015 retirement and was CEO until December 2017 when he promoted president and COO Erik Carlson to CEO, enabling Ergen to focus on the company’s emerging wireless business as chairman." Thanks, CK-DISH (talk) 16:14, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

References

@CK-DISH: A suggestion, to maybe get more attention for your edit requests, at places like here and here: Try using the edit request template. -- Yae4 (talk) 00:55, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

I'm adding the template per Yae4's suggestion but also wanted to give a quick ping to @Edwardx: in case they'd like to look at this, given their recent activity on the article. Thanks, CK-DISH (talk) 16:15, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

I've added the Reuters reference for the chairman claim (placed in the infobox, since ref tags in the lead are generally discouraged). With regards to the proposed text addition, since that is a claim discussing a personal motivation ("enabling Ergen to focus on the company’s emerging wireless business as chairman") it should ideally have an inline attribution (i.e., "According to ____, the move was in order to focus on..." or "_____ has stated that the move was effected in order to focus on..." etc.) It should also be clarified what it is that you mean by the term "to focus on", since that phrase is ambiguous. Regards,  Spintendo  17:59, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Notes

@Spintendo: The Reuters report explains that by giving up the day-to-date responsibilities of a chief executive, Ergen has more time to devote to building out the wireless business and will remain chairman. I rewrote the proposed sentence in the introduction based on your feedback to make this clearer. Could you consider the following?

• "Ergen resumed as CEO upon Clayton's March 31, 2015 retirement and was CEO until December 2017 when he promoted president and COO Erik Carlson to CEO. Reuters reported that the move was effected to remove the day-to-day responsibilities of running DISH and provide more time for Ergen to build out the company’s emerging wireless business. He remained chairman."

Thanks, CK-DISH (talk) 20:26, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

References

Additional context for introduction

Based on feedback from the discussion above, here is a fresh edit request to update the introduction after the sentence "Ergen resumed as CEO upon Clayton's March 2015 retirement and was CEO until December 2017, when he promoted president and COO Erik Carlson to CEO." I suggest adding context regarding Charlie Ergen's 2017 decision to step down as CEO. My requested edit (in green) reflects Ergen's reasoning, as reported by Reuters.

• "Ergen resumed as CEO upon Clayton's March 31, 2015 retirement and was CEO until December 2017 when he promoted president and COO Erik Carlson to CEO. Reuters reported that the move was effected to remove the day-to-day responsibilities of running DISH and provide more time for Ergen to build out the company’s emerging wireless business. He remained chairman."

As an employee of DISH, I am here to suggest improvements and updates to this article. I'll avoid editing the article directly and will disclose my conflict of interest openly when submitting requests for editors to review.

Thanks, CK-DISH (talk) 23:14, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

References

​ Implemented with some minor chnages. I have moved the chairman sentence to the preceeding sentence because it seemed too short like a fragment. {{replyto}} Can I Log In's (talk) page 17:50, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Early career

Hello again! The article does not include information on Charlie Ergen's career before EchoStar. I've proposed a very basic and neutral description of Ergen's work for Frito-Lay and time as a professional card player, if editors find this addition helpful:

• Early career

Charlie Ergen was a financial analyst for Frito-Lay after graduating with his M.B.A. He "retired" in 1978 in hopes of working for himself. Afterward, he was a professional gambler, playing poker and blackjack.

References

As an employee of DISH, I am here to suggest improvements and updates to this article. I'll avoid editing the article directly and will disclose my conflict of interest openly when submitting requests for editors to review.

Thanks, CK-DISH (talk) 16:13, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

@Can I Log In: Thank you for assisting with the edit request above. If you are interested in updating the page further, I've submitted this request to include information on Charlie Ergen's early career before EchoStar. Thanks for any feedback or changes on my behalf. CK-DISH (talk) 14:29, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

I'm not going to action this myself becuase... , but about this edit request, I'm not so sure since I see it as borderline WP:COVERT.

Just something you should know as a COI/paid editor, uncontroversial edit request (obvious vandalism or BLP violations, typos, anything uncontroversial) can skip talk page discussion. For content changes like this, please use {{request edit}} so you edit request will be in the queue. 73 in the queue is highly unusual because normally it's <50.

Can I Log In (talk) 03:58, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

I implemented the edit with some slight variations.DesertDana (talk) 05:19, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Picture concerns

Are we really going to continue to use the current picture for his infobox? This should not be infobox picture. BigRed606 (talk) 03:06, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Removed Image as it is not to Wikipedia standards read Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Images. BigRed606 (talk) 03:15, 19 May 2021 (UTC)