Talk:Charge of the Savoia Cavalleria at Izbushensky

Latest comment: 4 years ago by 2001:818:D8D7:9500:DB3:5412:577A:A426 in topic Completely unsourced casualties

Mongolian, no Estonian platoon were taken prisoners by the Savoia Cavalleria.

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This article referred to "Estonian platoon" fighting on Russian side ("... some Estonian platoons equipped with Italian uniforms, which had been taken from the Sforzesca division"). In fact, there appear to be Mongolian platoons who were taken prisoners (or, to be more precise, "Mongol" platoons - "plotoni di mongoli" - that may refer to simply soldiers of Central Asian origin).

The excerpt from the referred interview (Lucio Lami, Isbuscenskij, l'ultima carica, Mursia, Milano, 1970; http://www.luciolami.com/libro_1970_isbuscenskij_l_ultima_carica.htm) reads as follows:

"Si seppe così, finalmente, la situazione: i seicentocinquanta cavalieri avevano combattuto contro duemila siberiani. Le perdite per il «Savoia» ammontavano a 32 morti (3 ufficiali), 52 feriti (5 ufficiali) e più di 100 cavalli fuori combattimento. I russi avevano invece lasciato sul campo 150 morti, 300 feriti, 500 prigionieri, quattro cannoni, dieci mortai, cinquanta mitragliatori e centinaia di fucili. Tra i prigionieri c'era un intero comando di battaglione. C'erano anche alcuni plotoni di mongoli interamente equipaggiati con uniformi italiane preda dell'attacco alla «Sforzesca»."

--Tanel1972 (talk) 22:26, 29 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

Completely unsourced casualties

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The only claim to the 32 Italian and 150 Soviet deaths are interviews decades after the war with three to four Italian survivors of the Eastern Front.

If this was a high school history paper, the student in question would fail due to an utter lack of ability in proving this was an actual event. Why are Wikipedia's standards so low? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:818:D8D7:9500:DB3:5412:577A:A426 (talk) 22:49, 18 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

Objective sources

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Are there any objective, non-Italian sources that this battle even happened? Can’t find any Soviet or German sources corroborating it.