Talk:Changbai Mountains

Merge

This article should not be separated its part of Korean Paektu Mountain. Plus Paektu mountain has two entrance. This is a door coming from China angle. In Korean its Baekdoosan not Changbai mountain. Its sounds wierd. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Korea4one (talk • contribs) 12:59, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

This article should be merged with Paektu-san/Baitou. Kokiri 28 June 2005 15:41 (UTC)

I don't follow your reasoning. Isn't the mountain range a separate topic from its highest mountain? I mean, we wouldn't merge Mount Everest with Himalaya. -- Visviva 28 June 2005 15:46 (UTC)

Oh well, maybe this article needs to be destubbed then ;). I'll remove the tags. Kokiri 28 June 2005 16:51 (UTC)

It would be great if this page had a map of the range. Beetle B. 05:14, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Suggested Merge

Oppose Merge Mt. Paektu, or Baekdu, or Baekdusan, or whatever you prefer to call it, deserves its own article. The very fact that its naming is controversial, that Chinese and Koreans have interest in claims to the mountain, it's outstanding status as the highest mountain in the chain, its large crater lake, and the fact that its eruption may have precipitated the downfall of the kingdom of Balhae all argue strongly that it must stand as a unique article. zadignose 13:52, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

zdignose is a liar — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.56.224.34 (talk • contribs) 21:20, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Oppose merge. I agree with all the above points by Zadignose. I believe any of them would be a good reason to have a separate article on the mountain; together, they seem insurmountable. (I will also copy my comment to the other talk page.) -- Avenue 15:19, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Oppose merge a mountain and a mountain range are different. (Wikimachine 22:09, 27 March 2007 (UTC))

support, Mt. Paektu it is the name only used in Korea, the world use Changbai Mountain, so just merge with Changbai Mountains, and put Mt. Paektu as an alternative name for Changbai Mountain--Yeahsoo 21:11, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't even want to make a big deal out of this, but I'm just going to say this and get out. Changbai Mountains is the name only used by non-Korean Wikipedians, Korean uses Baekdu Mountain to describe the mountain that is part of the Changbai Mountain Range but is not a mountain range itself. (Wikimachine 21:58, 2 April 2007 (UTC))

Note: As of April 19, I removed the merge proposal template, as there had been no apparent consensus to merge after three weeks. zadignose 13:02, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Manchu name

The Manju Nikan Inggiri Gisun i Buleku Bithe gives šanggan alin, not golmin šanggiyan alin which can be seen in the painting from the Veritable Records. Has šanggan alin replaced golmin šanggiyan alin only as the name of this range? And how are the two forms related? Is šanggiyan simply the older form of the word “white” that was gradually shortened to šanggan as its 20th century form? Wikipeditor (talk) 21:57, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Both golmin šanggiyan alin and šanggiyan alin are the Manchu name of Changbai Mountains. Golmin šanggiyan alin is its full name, and corresponds its Chinese name changbai shan. In the book Manju i Yargiyan Kooli, both names are used.Obonggi (talk) 02:13, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Suggested Name Change

Shouldn't the name of this article be changed to the Changbai Mountain Range? It's a cause for confusion especially as Changbai Mountains can also refer to the local Chinese name for Baekdu Mountain which is the peak of the Changbai Mountain Range. --DandanxD (talk) 11:58, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

• Oppose: Changbai Mountains seldom refers to Baekdu Mountain, Changbai Mountain or Changbai Peaks does. But neither those 2 Changbai Mountains. ––虞海 (Yú Hǎi) ✍ 13:17, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

  Three concepts:

  1. A mountain range=several mountains (Changbai Mountains);
  2. A mountain=several peaks (Changbai Mountain);
  3. A peak=a summit (General Kim Peak or Mount Baitou).

  ––虞海 (Yú Hǎi) ✍ 13:19, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Yes, but it is still ambiguous. Moving the page to "Changbai Mountain Ranges" is would clear up any confusion with Baekdu Mountain (also known locally as 'Changbai Mountain' in China) which is the peak of the Changbai Mountain Range. --DandanxD (talk) 05:53, 17 April 2011 (UTC)