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clarifying "their lack of the prescribed means," under "Influence in Rome"
editA clarification of Cato the Censor's "ejecting from either order the men whom he judged unworthy of membership, either on moral grounds or on the basis of their lack of the prescribed means." I added a parenthetical sentence that what was meant was a financial means test to be and stay a Senator. (In Section, "Influence in Rome," almost the end of the second paragraph.)
Since "secondary references" were said to be lacking, I gave as my reference the highly erudite and factual Appendix of Colleen McCullough's novel Caesar, which although a work of fiction, the appendix -- as are all the appendices of her Masters of Rome series of books -- is more well-researched than many purported "histories" of Rome. A first-class secondary reference, which no scholar of Ancient Rome can afford to miss. I hope I did this right. I could link (the wiki page of) all of her Masters of Rome novels.
Oh, and this is what I added, in parentheses as here: (Senators were supposed to be independently wealthy, their income to be based on land ownership rather than commerce, and there was also a financial "means test." A Senator was expected to have what we would call a "net worth" of over a million sestertii, the standard Roman silver coin. Equivalencies in modern currencies are both misleading and impossible, but nevertheless, it would be fair to characterize the Roman Senate as a literal "Millionaires club.")
Meant to be in parentheses, unless others have better ideas about whether and where to include this. Maybe in a Footnote-ey type footnote, instead of a parenthetical followed by a reference-type footnote? Not to belabor the issue. But I expect one to familiarize ones self with the masterful McCullough before dismissing my suggestion out of hand. And it helps solve the huge secondary source issue. 2601:643:8C00:D00:FCA8:2B63:1E5:FBC (talk) 00:09, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
Dalit literature
editHow Dalit Literature found in indian Literature 103.217.116.69 (talk) 04:47, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
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Pronunciation of Cato in classical Latin?
editThe article clearly states that Cato is to be pronounced with an English accent. That can't be true for Latin, though. Other modern languages like German or Italian have his name pronounced with a different vowel, similar to modern Italian "Latio". What's the reason for explicitely giving a pronunciation which is not the original one? --ComradeMicha (talk) 14:26, 29 February 2024 (UTC)