Talk:Casualties of the Israel–Hamas war
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Use of media reports in death toll
editThis section is problematic:
As of 29 February, the Gaza Health Ministry stated that its daily tallies now rely upon "a combination of accurate death counts from hospitals that are still partially operating, and on estimates from media reports to assess deaths in the north of Gaza", but did not "cite or say which sources those are." On 31 March, it stated that 15,070 fatalities (45.8% of the then total) had been compiled via "reliable media sources" instead of direct reporting.
The quotation is not from the Gaza health ministry, but from an NPR article summarising their statements. The summary is incorrect - the health ministry never said it uses media reports. The ministry attributed a portion of the deaths to "المصادر الإعلامية الموثوقة". This has been translated as "reliable media sources" but in context can also mean the hospital's press team. This is in fact what the ministry has said - that these numbers are the result of body counts performed by the hospital's press officers. They have said very clearly that they do not do media monitoring.
https://news.sky.com/story/gaza-conflict-thousands-remain-unidentified-as-death-toll-reaches-40-000-13197287 Curevesi (talk) 21:29, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks very much. I'll add it to the Gaza Health Ministry article under methodology, it expands on what's there. There are a number of points which I think are unclear but it at least makes the area of uncertainty smaller. I think your interpretation has a problem in that the hospitas wouldn't have press teams able to do what you say. And they say they do not depend on any press sources. There are however first responders and ambulances that could be instructed to do as described in the article. Whether they also have another source is unclear to me from what is said. Perhaps it's deliberate - rather too many journalists have been killed to be complacent about who they are or what they do.. NadVolum (talk) 20:28, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
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To even state that all civilian men could be considered as combatants is highly misleading and deeply offensive. APaul2021 (talk) 20:58, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Bunnypranav (talk) 05:47, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
