Talk:Capriccio (Rex Whistler)

Latest comment: 4 years ago by Theramin in topic A few things

A few things

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Williamsdoritios, Johnbod - Hi, and thanks for the article. A nice link for Curzon Street Baroque. A couple of questions:

  • Should the article name be italicised? I think most works of art are.
  • Can it properly be called a mural if it's actually a painting on canvas that has been fixed to the wall. Is this Marouflage?

Not my area of expertise, so I've copied in a man who'll know. KJP1 (talk) 14:14, 9 August 2020 (UTC)Reply


Hello Johnbod, KJP1, and Marouflage if you feel that "Capriccio" is a wall painting rather than a mural and have evidence and see fit to move the page please do, but isn't a mural an overly large wall painting thinking of Michelangelo; perhaps not. Its all good.  Thanks for the attention to detail.Williamsdoritios (talk) 14:28, 9 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

P.s. I’ve often wondered - was Whistler inspired by Portmeirion? Two Italian coastal villages in North Wales?? KJP1 (talk) 14:36, 9 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

The Owner of Plas Newydd the National Trust refers to it as a mural.  [1]Williamsdoritios (talk) 14:43, 9 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Yes, we can call it a mural as it is intended to function as such, just like Pollock's Mural (1943) - but are we sure it is called "Capriccio"? The NT call it "Capriccio of a Mediterranean Seaport with British and Italian Buildings, the Mountains of Snowdonia, and a Self-portrait wielding a Broom" which is a bit descriptive and wordy: is that what Whistler called it? Is it really just a description, not a proper title at all?

The NT then add "(Plas Newydd Dining Room Mural)" so I suspect something like Rex Whistler Mural (perhaps that could be confused with the one at the Tate, although it has a proper title), or Plas Newydd Dining Room Mural might be a better title (or to satisfy the capital letter zealots, Plas Newydd dining room mural).

There is plenty more to mine from the existing sources and other sources that are readily available - eg. [2] [3] - and we should add the trompe-l'œil panels at either end - the continuing colonnades including one with a self-portrait (not just the watercolour studies [4]) and the grisaille "relief" panels next to them. Theramin (talk) 01:43, 10 August 2020 (UTC)Reply