Talk:Capital Beltway (Harrisburg)

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Harrisburg Expressway has been merged with this article. --myselfalso 14:22, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

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Is this a limited access road?--trey 22:40, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it is 100% expressway. Heff01 (talk) 17:18, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

mileposts

Mileposts on I-81 done.

Mileposts on PA 581 done.

Mileposts for I-83:

• 41.31 PA 581 west
• 41.41 exit 41B
• exit 42 northbound: 41.63 southbound: 42.01
• exit 43 42.70
• exit 44A 43.13
• exit 44B 43.54
• exit 45 45.11
• exit 46A 45.92
• exit 46B US 322 east (northbound) 45.96
• exit 47 US 322 east (southbound) 46.76
• exit 48 47.92
• exit 50 49.23
• exit 51 50.21 —Preceding unsigned comment added by JohnnyAlbert10 (talk • contribs) 02:20, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Beltway systems in Pennsylvania

There are five Beltway systems in Pennsylvania in order of creation:

• Pittsburgh: Interstate 79, Interstate 76, Interstate 70. A Southern Beltway in Allegheny County is in the works which will create an inner beltway.
• Scranton: Interstate 81, Interstate 476, and Route 315 to connect them at the Wyoming Valley interchange. These two examples are as old as the Turnpike system.
• Philadelphia: Interstate 276, Interstate 476, Interstate 95, Interstate 295 over the Delaware Memorial Bridge, New Jersey Turnpike. This is a tri-state beltway and is as old as the "Blue Route" portion of 476.
• Harrisburg: The Capital Beltway is as old as Highway 581 and the only beltway in the state signed as one.
• Allentown/Bethlehem: Highway 22, Highway 33, Interstate 78, Highway 309. This example is as old as the 33 extension. Heff01 (talk) 17:28, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Merger proposal

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was support. – TMF 18:12, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Since all of PA 581 is part of the Capital Beltway, I see no need for two separate pages.

• Oppose - Capital Beltway is rather rare of a designation. I'd prefer the PA 581 page staying because the Capital Beltway didn't involve in PA 581's construction. The construction details are for the PA 581 article.Mitch32^{(A fortune in fabulous articles can be yours!)} 04:24, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
• Support. The history of PA 581 is a subset of the Beltway's history - that is, all of 581's history also relates to the history of the beltway as a whole - and the routing is a subset as well. Heck, a good chunk of what's in PA 581's article is already in this article. – TMF 04:33, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
• Support - Even though PA 581 is a separate route that by other standards is notable enough for its own article, it would make sense to merge it here since the "entire" route is part of the beltway. ---Dough4872 17:00, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
• Oppose - PA 581 could be I-581, and I don't think that article would be a redirect to the Harrisburg Capital Beltway. That's all I have to say. HighwayMaster (talk) 23:52, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Actually, it would for the same reasons I outlined above. What designation it is is irrelevant in this case. – TMF 23:55, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support there is too much overlap between the two articles otherwise. Imzadi 1979 → 18:05, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

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Expressway "Work"

Growing up in Mechanicsburg in the 1970s until joining the Army in 1996, I can remember the interchange on I-81 being constructed as part of a planned connection to the Expressway at US-11. I remember my parents saying it was started but blocked by courts after residents living in it's proposed general route, fought the expansion. We had friends who lived in an old farmhouse that was the site of George Croghans original fur trading post (historical marker: https://www.hmdb.org/m.asp?m=217028) located on Skyport Rd between the highway and Hampton Elementary school. They talked about not wanting the connector as well because it was originally planned to go through their property. It was moved slightly west to it's current location to avoid the historical site. I can only find the following page that verifies the I-81 interchange sitting unused for decades. https://www.aaroads.com/guides/pa-581/ So the plan was there to link PA-581 to I-81 in the 1970s when that section of I-81 was being built between Harrisburg & Carlisle. It ran into problems with purchase of ROW & property owners until the 1990s when construction was finally began. Fish1552 (talk) 16:00, 3 September 2024 (UTC)