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Merge proposal

I have suggested that Port Walcott be merged here, but actually I am agnostic about the merge direction. But we do seem to have 2 articles about the same subject, so we need to do some form of merger, unless anyone has a better suggestion? Fob.schools (talk) 08:52, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

I strongly disagree with this proposal. The 2 articles aren't about the same subject - the Cape Lambert port facility is a subsidiary of Port Walcott.

Port Walcott is the official and common name for the port and harbour within which are sited Cossack, Point Samson and Cape Lambert. It dates from 1866 to the present. The name is in current general use for the harbour and the facilities within it, including by Rio Tinto, the owner of Cape Lambert. The name has 2,545 search hits in a Trove Newspapers Western Australia search, with results from 1866 to 2007.

Cape Lambert is a Rio Tinto ore loading facility within Port Walcott. The name isn’t interchangeable with “Port Walcott”. It has 46 search hits in a Trove Newspapers Western Australia search, with results from 1971 to 1991.

The facilities within Port Walcott are or were:

Cossack, land-backed wharf, operated from 1863 to 1904

Point Samson jetty, completed in 1904, export facility for sheep, cattle, Wittenoom and Yampire Gorge asbestos. Used by Hamersley Iron and Robe River prior to completion of Dampier and Cape Lambert facilities.

Cape Lambert jetties, a private ore loading facility, established in 1972.

The situation can be equated with that of the Port of Fremantle article, where facilities such as Fremantle Outer Harbour and Victoria Quay have sections in the main article, and also have more detailed stand alone articles.

On re-reading the Cape Lambert and Port Walcott articles, the relationship is fairly clear although the history sections of Point Samson and Port Walcott need to be beefed up. Regards John beta (talk) 05:04, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi John - you may well be right, but the lede for the Port Walcott article says it is an article about a port:

With the neighboring ports of Port Hedland and Dampier, Port Walcott is one of three major iron ore exporting ports in the Pilbara region,[2] and in the top five ports in Australia by tonnage (81 million tonnes in 2010/11).

Is that not the case? Is Port Walcott instead a town, which contains a port, i.e. Cape Lambert? Fob.schools (talk) 13:39, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

There are 3 topics here, and 3 pages, but the content is perhaps a little mixed between the pages in questions. My view is that the topics are the large open water harbour (which is the current focus of Port Walcott), the port facility (Cape Lambert) and the township (Point Samson, Western Australia). Most of the duplication seems to be on the Port Walcott page, which attempts to cover (at least to some extent) all three topics. So, my view is that we could keep the three pages, disambiguate with hatnotes, link better with main templates on the Port Walcott page, and move some of the material on the Port Walcott page that relates to the port facilities or town to the other pages. Klbrain (talk) 10:30, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

Section moved, and some disambiguation in the lede. Klbrain (talk) 12:14, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

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