Talk:Buuhoodle

Deletion of large section of text

I deleted a large section of text, copy and pasted from various places, including this and this blog. --AW (talk) 20:11, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Stop claiming our city Said4641 (talk) 19:28, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

History

The history section of this article relies purely on one sources. That is a book written by a combatant in the Dervish wars, whom cannot be deemed reliable or objective in narrating an accurate record of history during this period. There are limitless scholars and historians who tell a different and contradicting history. Therefore, in order to provide readers a balanced and accurate information, i would recommend that this section should be rewritten. Shirshore (talk) 21:57, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

History

The material sources of the Dhulbahante history in Buuhoodle is extremely derogatory and disrespectful i highly recommend that it be removed immediately. This kind of inflammatory language against a people should not be on WikipediaShirshore (talk) 02:25, 14 September 2019 (UTC).

Admin add this

Djama Soulaiman, attorney general of Djibouti is from Buuhoodle and hails form the Hayaag sub clan Prince Of Buuhoodle (talk) 00:49, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

The Douglas Jardine Quote

The following quote from Douglas Jardine quote is both inflammatory and derogatory, I feel it's not informative, and it's rather offensive to the people described by the text.

"The most pitiful lot of all fell to certain sections of the Dolbahanta. Ousted from their ancestral grazing grounds by the Mullah's advance and bereft of all their stock, the remnants wandered like veritable Ishmaelites in the Ishaak country, deprived of Asylum and almost all access to the coast."

@Kzl55 you have agreed with me on this previously when I advised that it should be removed from the Dhulbahante article - here. I don't understand why you disagree now?

Thanks, Shirshore (talk) 17:55, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

We agreed that rewording and rephrasing what you find offensive is preferable to blanket removal of relevant sourced content, no? I tried to contextualise the quote to make it clearer that these conditions were applicable to a wider population and not localised to a single clan. After all, one third of the entire population of the protectorate perished during this period. If you still feel after contextualisation that it remains disrespectful feel free to remove the quote text, but please summarise/reword it in a more palatable way. --Kzl55 (talk) 20:53, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 17 September 2020

Notable residents

• Abdihakim Abdullahi Haji Omar – Vice President of Puntland
• Mohammed Abdullah Hassan – leader of the Dervish movement
• Saado Ali Warsame – Singer & MP in the Federal Parliament of Somalia
• Ismail Mire - Somali poet and Dervish movement general
• Ali Ahmed Jama Jangali, Former foreign affairs minister of Somalia
• Ali Dhuh - Somali poet
• Saleban Essa Ahmed 'Xaglatoosiye' - Somaliland Minister of Health & former SSC militia leader
• Guled Adan, child prodigy and reverse engineer
• Fatima Diriye- Ceo of Leafletta & Co & Founder of The Leafletta Foundation Leafletta (talk) 21:45, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

 Not done. People on the list need to be notable. In lists, this typically means that they have their own Wikipedia articles. Also please read WP:COI. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:17, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Spelling of town

Is there an official spelling for the town? Throughout the article the spellings "Buhoodle", "Buuhoodle" and "Buhodle" are used.

Many thanks Jacob300 (talk) 18:53, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Perhaps "Buuhoodle" per [1]. --Kzl55 (talk) 21:45, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 31 December 2020

Reason for request: Bare URL, Dead URL

<ref name="docs.unocha.org">https://docs.unocha.org/sites/dms/Somalia/UNDP-POP-RURAL-URBAN%202005.pdf</ref>

Please replace with:

<ref name="docs.unocha.org">{{cite web |url=https://docs.unocha.org/sites/dms/Somalia/UNDP-POP-RURAL-URBAN%202005.pdf |title=Regions, districts, and their populations: Somalia 2005 (draft) |website=[[United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs]] |publisher=[[United Nations Development Programme]] |access-date=31 December 2020 |archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20170728203029/https://docs.unocha.org/sites/dms/Somalia/UNDP-POP-RURAL-URBAN%202005.pdf |archive-date=28 June 2017 |url-status=dead}}</ref>

(DMY seems to be the date format for this article)

TimSmit (talk) 04:06, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

To editor TimSmit:  done, and thank you very much! Happy New Year to you and yours! P.I. Ellsworth  ed. ^put'r there 01:48, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 2 June 2021

I want to change specific words in this article for personal reasons and to tell the truth of the article thanks Abdiaziz23 (talk) 00:38, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

yes I want to make some changes to this page so please alow to proceed thanks Abdiaziz23 (talk) 00:39, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:40, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

June 21

Siirski, Please stop the disruptive editing, you have been warned! You can't remove sourced content. Furthermore, Buuhoodle is not controlled by Somaliland as explained by the citation provided. If you keep up the disruptive editing you can be blocked. Shirshore (talk) 19:28, 14 June 2021 (UTC) @Shirshore:Wikipedia is not a place to play I'm not removing content but you turn around the pages. --Siirski (talk) 19:36, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Siirski, My contribution was constructive and sourced. I do not intend to play. You claim your edit adheres to WP:NPOV, but it elevates Somaliland's claim over Puntland's - that's not neutral. Shirshore (talk) 19:49, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

@Shirshore: I am absolutely neutral, and the proof is that I wrote that a city under the control of Puntland state of Somalia.--Siirski (talk) 19:57, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

This is the guide. See [2] Thank you.--Siirski (talk) 20:01, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Siirski, Neutrality is all that's needed on Wikipedia, no doubt all sides will be satisfied once that's achieved. Shirshore (talk) 20:04, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi @Shirshore: Thank you for the understanding that. 👍🏽 Siirski (talk) 20:30, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Buuhoodle isn't Somaliland

The territory of the Buuhoodle is disputed by the self declared state of Somaliland due to it's claimed inheritance of the former British Somaliland colonial boundaries. This claim however is contested by Somalia's autonomous government of Putland who defacto controls the Buuhoodle district due to the Buuhoodle tribal leaders rejecting Somalilands secession attempts when the formally unified Somali Republic fracture in the early 90s. 2600:387:6:80F:0:0:0:95 (talk) 19:20, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Please, don't WP:SPAM. You will not get more attention or consensus spamming on wikipedia. Provide reliable source for your claims and edit the article according exactly to what was wrote in the source provided. Cheers. Carlosguitar ^{(Yes Executor?)} 10:23, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Derogatory

I have removed abhorrently degrading text under the history section. If anyone holds that this text is constructive and informative to readers in some way please engage here. Thanks, Shirshore (talk) 20:08, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello Shirshore,

I have manually reverted this since you removed significant portions of sourced content without any valid explanation. There is nothing degrading about the text but rather sheds light on Dervish raids on the Dhulbahante. Please cease from removing sourced content. Gebagebo (talk) 20:31, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 August 2022

The inclusion of Buuhoodle under Somaliland is incorrect and very offensive to the inhabitants. The Somaliland group (Isaaq tribe) have previously attempted to force capture the city through bloodshed but were defeated by the locals(hence the memorial). Please refer to Buuhoodle as part of Somalia rather than Somaliland. 120.22.146.164 (talk) 15:39, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit extended-protected}} template. This is obviously a whole thing. This needs discussion, not edit requests and single postings on the talk page as we see above. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:47, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 31 August 2022

Buuhoodle is not apart of “Somaliland” rather IT IS CONTROLLED BY KHAATUMO STATE SOMALIA who have full control of the Ayn region. It is also under The Federal Republic of Somalia. Guulwadhe95 (talk) 13:22, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit extended-protected}} template. As per above, this is obviously a whole thing. This needs discussion. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:26, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Claims

Bhudodle is currently controlled by The Khatumo State of Somalia Somaliyeed (talk) 22:16, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

Buhoodle isn't controlled by Somaliland

The territory of the Buuhoodle is disputed by the self declared state of Somaliland due to it's claimed inheritance of the former British Somaliland colonial boundaries. This claim however is contested by Somalia's autonomous government of Putland who defacto controls th e Buuhoodle district due to the Buuhoodle tribal leaders rejecting Somalilands secession attempts when the formally unified Somali Republic fracture in the early 90s. 196.191.66.76 (talk) 04:52, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

My friend jaama apdi risaq and apdihakim ali

we love somalia 154.115.222.52 (talk) 19:25, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

Buhodle isn't somaliland and putland

https://www.facebook.com/stories/103288619257526/UzpfSVNDOjE4MTgzMTk1NzU0NTQ4MQ==/?view_single=1&source=shared_permalink&mibextid=Nif5oz 154.115.222.152 (talk) 19:29, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

Expert attention needed

As I understand it based on a quick browse through this 2015 book by University of Leipzig anthropologist Markus Virgil Hoehne, the city of Buuhoodle lies in a region that is claimed by both Somalia and Somlialand. I have edited the lede sentence of the article to reflect that but the rest of the article still contains contradictory claims about who controls the city. A read-through from someone who understand the region and issues would help. The good part is that the cited sources is freely accessible. Abecedare (talk) 23:12, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Question about Buuhoodle Wiki Edits

Hi @Binglebarry, I've noticed that you've reverted recent edits to the Buuhoodle wiki page without providing any sources indicating that Buuhoodle is currently under the control of Somaliland.

Buuhoodle is presently under SSC-Khaatumo administration forces. For confirmation, please refer to this link from SSC-Khaatumo's official Facebook page, documenting Abdikhadir Ahmed Aw-Ali's recent visit to Buuhoodle. Sifeeye (talk) 22:58, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

Twitter pages are not credible sources. Binglebarry (talk) 02:01, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

The link is a recent post from SSC-Khaatumo's official Facebook page. Sifeeye (talk) 02:41, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Here is a wiki page on using Facebook as a source of information WP:FACEBOOK

• As an external link:  Generally no. Regular websites are strongly preferred, but exceptions are made for official links when the subject of the article has no other Web presence.

Based on the text above, I think it's acceptable to use the FB link since it's from the official SSC-Khaatumo page and there is no web presence except FB posts and YouTube videos from other sources. Sifeeye (talk) 03:13, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Here is a YT link if you'd like. It shows a AS terror leader or officer inside Las'anod.

youtu.be/2F3kpe9-kcA?si=yM3qCvWbceK1oqrZ.

And another link about the AS officer:

horntribune.com/2023/02/09/al-shabaab-leader-and-army-fighting-in-lasaanod-inside-africa/. Binglebarry (talk) 05:24, 20 December 2023 (UTC)