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Not excessively essay-like, and context is quite sufficient. Just needs sthe citations to be inline. The concept is I think sufficiently notable
Merger proposal: Commercial Courts
editCommercial Court, which right now is merely a stub, should be merged into this article. Topics are essentially synonymous but this article is better developed and sourced. Wl219 (talk) 17:24, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- I consent to this change and it appears to be the correct solution. Jorahm (talk) 18:52, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- I have done most of the edits to the Business courts page since 2019. Seems like a good solution would be to change the title to Business and Commercial Courts, and to remove the existing Commercial Courts page, which is accurately described as merely a stub. Leeapp (talk) 04:09, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- The correct title is Business court per WP:PLURAL. It's not the name of a class (which would be an exception to the general rule) but merely a descriptive phrase (cf. Supreme court). Hairy Dude (talk) 16:31, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
Merger complete. Per discussion with no objections over half a year. No prejudice against further discussion of name. —Ost (talk) 05:10, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Just reverted undiscussed move
editHi, I reverted @User:Leeapp's move from "Business courts" to "Business and Commercial Courts" which violated the Wikipedia:Sentence case guidelines. In a day or two, when I get around to it, I'll also change the in-text capitalizations throughout the article that Leeapp added. Crunchydillpickle🥒 (talk) 23:56, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
The difference between complex litigation and business litigation
editI have litigated both types of cases enough to know the difference before I went back to insurance coverage/bad faith litigation. The article's treatment of the two seems to be trying to conflate them together. It's confusing and it's simply incorrect.
This article should not be discussing complex litigation, particularly in California. Or it should be discussing the topic only briefly in contradistinction.
Very little complex litigation is business litigation. Complex litigation is overwhelmingly dominated by plaintiff consumers or employees suing big businesses (deep pockets) for product liability, antitrust (price fixing), securities and wage-and-hour violations.
Business litigation involves business-to-business transactions or relationships. The parties are in contractual privity with each other and the dispute usually starts with one or both sides saying that you defrauded me, you ripped me off. The two types of claims that don't require some kind of privity are intellectual property and antitrust (unfair competition).
But none of these claims are complex, except for the rare situation involving price fixing across an entire industry which doesn't directly face consumers because the end users are typically businesses. Then all the angry downstream business customers get together and sue the upstream manufacturers or distributors. That kind of case is complex business litigation, and it was the very situation which led to the creation of the multidistrict litigation statute at the federal level. Coolcaesar (talk) 18:43, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
Split proposal - US
editThe portions about the US (§§ Business and commercial courts in the United States and Business and commercial court judges in the United States since 1993) currently take up a large portion of the page. The US history and use of these courts is likely notable on its own; moving the detailed information to a US-centric page (e.g., Business court (US)) may make this page more readable and editable for the general topic. —Ost (talk) 05:31, 17 September 2024 (UTC)