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Latest comment: 9 days ago3 comments3 people in discussion

Is there a consensus in reliable academic sources to label the repression undergone by the Buryat people as genocide? I don't deny that there was absolutely repression during the Soviet era, but labeling this as genocide is a pretty high bar and should definitely be discussed. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 11:20, 10 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Nope. Mellk (talk) 13:47, 21 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

No, no, and no. The narrative of genocide has been promoted by Buryat activists backed by Western NGOs, who advance it for their own political agendas. There has never been any academic consensus regarding a "Buryat genocide". 2607:F2C0:E024:3C30:1955:561E:AF68:237 (talk) 07:31, 19 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

Taken out of context, etc.

Latest comment: 5 months ago2 comments2 people in discussion

I don't know English well, so I'll use a translator

Paragraphs starnig with "On April 25, 1917..." and ending with "In total in Buryatia..." are taken out of context. In 1917-1922 there was a civil war in Russia, and then similar, to put it in Russian, “pizdec” happened throughout the country. The Russians, represented by the White Guard movement, the Red Army, the Cossacks, Old Believers and others, persecuted the Buryats not on a national basis, but because they fought for the communists.

Not only the Buryats, but also almost all residents of the USSR were subjected to repression in the 30s. Many peoples suffered even more: they were deported to Kazakhstan and other remote corners of the country, which, fortunately, did not happen to the Buryats. During the repressions, not only the Buryat elites suffered, but also the elites of the entire Soviet Union. Also, all religious figures throughout the USSR suffered, and not just Buryat shamans and lamas. So, it is necessary to either create an article “genocide of the Soviet people”, or delete this one due to its one-sidedness.

The fact that at one time the Buryat language was excluded from the school curriculum is, of course, bad. I won't argue with that. But this is far from “genocide.”

As for the borders of the Buryat Republic, it is very important to take into account that there is no single “hotbed” of Buryat settlement here. The Buryats live mixed with Russians, so there are two options: either create “island” regions (such as the Ust-Ordynsky and Aginsky Autonomous Okrugs) with a relatively mono-ethnic composition, or a single monolithic region, but with a Buryat minority. Here's a picture: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%D0%A0%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D0%B1%D1%83%D1%80%D1%8F%D1%82_%D0%B2_%D0%A1%D0%A4%D0%9E_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B4%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BC_%D0%B8_%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8C%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BC_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F%D0%BC,_%D0%B2_%25.png

For now, I am absolutely sure that I can afford to exclude the line “direct extermination of the Buryat people,” because this definitely did not happen. But it is important that this article is eventually removed because it does not address reality. Thanks for understanding. VladimirDus (talk) 13:34, 21 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

This is more of a case of WP:OR. In addition, to say that there is an ongoing genocide or extermination of Buryats is of course fringe, but the creator of this article has being pushing such narratives for a while. Mellk (talk) 13:50, 21 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

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