Talk:Buran (spacecraft)
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Italicisation of Buran
editUntil 7 August, the Buran spacecraft was italicised but Buran programme wasn't. Huntster italicised both on 7 August. I have partially reverted their contribution today to the de facto practice. I also see the italicisation of Buran-class orbiter. I do not know whether the Buran-class orbiter should be italicised or not, since the italicisation of spacecraft class is (mostly) deprecated since the discussion at Talk:SpaceX Starship/Archive 1#Starship in italics?. --Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 11:07, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
- *shrug* It's whatever to me. Looks bizarre to have some instances italicized and some not, would look even more bizarre to not italicize the class. — Huntster (t @ c) 11:53, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
Cancellation details
editUnder "Projected flights" it is claimed that it was never officially canceled, but the source says it was completely removed from the budget. This is in conflict with later in the article under "Fate and destruction", where "The programme was officially terminated on 30 June 1993, by President Boris Yeltsin." is written. This has its own source although much smaller they both seem to be somewhat low quality. Which of these is correct?
Info about the proprietorship of the Buran replica in Kzahstan
editRT reports on 2021-09-11: Businessman offers to swap Buran spaceplane replica for skull of Kazakhstan’s last khan as Russia seeks return of legendary craft
The original Buran spacecraft was destroyed in 2002 when a hangar roof at the Baikonur spaceport collapsed. The cosmodrome is leased by Russia but located in Kazakhstan, and was the former base of the Soviet space program. The mock-up is also at Baikonur, stored in another hangar. However, unlike other copies, this particular model was actually able to fly. In 2020, the head of the Russian state space agency tried to buy the Buran and bring it to Russia, but discovered that it belonged to an anonymous owner from Kazakhstan who could not be found. Now, he has been identified as Dauren Musa.
On Thursday (2021-09-09), Kazakh Minister of Digital Development Bagdat Musin promised to sue Musa, claiming he owns the spacecraft illegally. According to the politician, Musa unlawfully acquired three stakes in Baikonur, two of which have already been ruled illegal by a court.
There is a T101 in your kitchen (talk) 16:42, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
List of Vehicles
editSince this article is about a specific spacecraft, I moved the "List of Vehicles" section to the more generic Buran programme article. 4throck (talk) 22:39, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
Factual Errors
editThis recently posted video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytmFLbPh7ss&t=2542s) discussing several myths on Buran does mention some of those myths being caused by this Wikipedia page's information. I clarified some things in the technical segment the video noted due to being claims not beyond the scope of using the video as a citation (i.e. the flight orbiter was not equipped with a manipulator arm or a docking ring in its one and only spaceflight). However, another claim from the video is that Buran was significantly further off from its planned landing site than the often cited 10m length used in the article. Since this goes against other sources cited in the article already, I am going to use a disputed inline tag to note it.
It does seem much of the video's sources on Buran's capability comes from the book "Energiya-Buran" by Bart Hendrickx and Burt Viz, I do not have a copy of this book on hand but if anyone does it could potentially serve to correct further errors in the text.
Xboxtravis7992 (talk) 01:45, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- I noted similar errors in Buran programme and rather than open a talk page there I redirected it to this article. Similar issues to note, such as the phrasing of Energia' reusability considerations in the Wikipedia article, the discussion on automated landing capability, payload capacity to orbit. Xboxtravis7992 (talk) 02:09, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if the aforementioned YouTube video should be cited as a source. As mentioned in WP:RSE, a non-official YouTube video is generally not a reliable source and this one uses the Hendrickx/Vis book as its primary source (the only one covering Buran as far as I can see), which is already referenced in the article. Edit: I have replaced those references with refs to the relevant sections in Hendrickx/Vis (it was all in there), but I welcome feedback. Galopujacyjez (talk) 17:40, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- What is there to discuss on automatic landing capability? It landed automatically, it has one, it's a fact. 46.42.23.87 (talk) 05:01, 17 September 2024 (UTC)