Talk:Breaking Dawn

Spoiler warning

There needs to be one before spoilers in this section. I was leafing through this article since I was curious about the movie, and in the first sentence of the concept section it spoils half the goddamn series. I'm pretty upset about this. 69.59.106.249 (talk) 01:17, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia does not include spoiler warnings, as it should be assumed that articles on works of fiction will include spoilers. I would suggest reading WP:SPOIL and never reading an article on the fourth book in a series when you are curious about the first. Andrea (talk) 03:10, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

You're right. It does ruin it, doesn't it? And Wikipedia did include spoiler warnings last time I checked. 68.41.193.39 (talk) 16:53, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

That is not true! Wikipedia has never had any valid spoiler warnings; any such spoiler warnings do not belong on Wikipedia and have no place on any article. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not an online book review, so why should it include it? Last time I checked there are no "spoiler alerts" in the middle of Encyclopaedia Brittanica... Ojay123 ^{(Talk•E-Mail•Contribs•Sandbox)(Respond on my talk page!} 22:36, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Spelling Error

In the 5th paragraph under "Book 3" the name of the Quileute Tribe is spelled wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.187.33.221 (talk) 18:05, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Early Release

Okay is it just me or is the subarticle on the book's early release written REALLY badly? It looks like the kid from The Mysterious Incident of The Dog in the Nighttime wrote it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.165.72.208 (talk) 22:10, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Um... isn't this how a lot of Wikipedia articles are written anyways? 76.203.9.115 (talk) 23:54, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

i think the twilight series is pretty good and isn't written badly just a spelling error. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.139.118.153 (talk) 23:39, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

spelled isn't it spelt?????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.220.118.136 (talk) 09:55, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Special edition being released early?

Looking around Livejournal, I've seen photographs of the special edition. So apparently some copies were released early? Should we mention that? Raven23 (talk) 22:54, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

No, I remember that. I don't know where to find the sites, though, because I refused to look at them (afraid of spoilers). I think it's worth noting... if someone can find the proper pages. Ashleyy osaurus (talk) 00:27, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

I've never heard anything about this, but if it exists - I'd like to see it included on the page. 74.192.74.240 (talk) 21:27, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Thee special edition is of eclipse. Not Breaking Dawn but it has thee preface and thee first chapter of Breaking Dawn in it and that was realsed before Breaking Dawn. Ballerinababe (talk) 23:56, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Cover Art

...there's a picture of the cover right there. We don't need a section describing it. SoulReaverDan (talk) 22:39, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

I think that someone needs to add the Stephenie Meyer released a plot point to the media through www.ew.com that Edward and Bella will be getting married. This information is not on here, and the article states and she has not released any information about the plot, which is now out of date. I can't alter this because the article is protected, but maybe a more established user can. Thanks, Beajolley56 (talk) 00:05, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Tagline

Not sure if this could be considered an 'error', but should the tagline refer to Breaking Dawn as the final book when we know that there's a fifth book in the works? LilyAnneMichaels (talk) 22:47, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

It's the final book from Bella's point of view. The fifth book, Midnight Sun, is just Twilight in Edward's point of view. Get your facts straight. --98.25.216.247 (talk) 16:13, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

I'd also like to mention that Midnight Sun will be a companion book to the series, as Stephenie Meyer has previously mentioned on her website. Stormwhisper (talk) 18:27, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Stephenie has stated during a Q&A session that she has a plot worked out for book five (not including Midnight Sun). It wont be from Bella's perspective but will definitely be a part of the series so yes the tagline could be slightly incorrect (or at the very least, misleading).Canez (talk) 00:22, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

You're right... she said that Bella's story would be "over." Ashleyy osaurus (talk) 00:29, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Cover

There should be an area describing the cover or talking about what it means.

Actually, i think that the chessmen in the cover indicate that bella, still human, therefore red, is a pawn in the book, a usefull person in the game, but easily disposed, the king is, of course, Edward, or Bella's future vampire self. --Stingraerae (talk) 01:40, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.187.83.206 (talk) 16:52, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

That will have to wait until we actually know what it means. ;) Andrea (talk) 19:39, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Pregnancy?

WHERE does it mention that Charlie thought that Bella was pregnant? Can someone give me a DIRECT LINK? The Rebel's Gone Pokeynuts LOL 03:13, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

--Afrida1220 (talk) 05:20, 8 December 2009 (UTC)You can find it in the first chapter of the book.

It's in the first chapter of Breaking Dawn (seen in the special edition of Eclipse, of course). When Bella and Edward tell Charlie that they have news for him, he automatically says something like, "You're pregnant, aren't you?!" Technically the chapter shouldn't be posted online so I won't provide a link, but I'm sure you can find it yourself with a bit of effort (if you don't own the special edition of Eclipse). Andrea (talk) 05:31, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

(pout). I'm a poor student, I can only afford to get one copy, which I have to share with my sister. And, my copy is NOT the special edition. But I will find it - I SWEAR i will (I found the penelope extras on youtube). ~ The Rebel's Gone Pokeynuts LOL 04:20, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

If you did find it, it would technically be illegal, and therefore very hard to find, but you can just walk into a B&N or Borders or something, pick up the special edition and read it in the store. It's what I did. ~ Bella Swan^? 09:31, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Early Release

Where is there actual evidence that it has been released early? The link provided doesn't mention any such thing (plus it's a fan site, not a news site). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lsharp21 (talk • contribs) 04:55, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

I've seen a copy of 1-7 in pdf format, so I can say it's been released early. From what I know a fansite member bought a copy at an airport, and then leaked chapters 1-14 to all it's members. However, seeing as there's no official source talking about the leak, it's a bit of a problem.Livre (talk) 13:41, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Don't post spoiles!!!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.125.76.227 (talk) 03:58, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

The evidence you're looking for probably doesn't exist. As far as I know, Stephenie Meyer, the publishing company, and associated lawyers worked very quickly to keep the early release under wraps. As such, no official news source has covered it. I personally called the store in question on July 29, only to be hung up on. For comparison, I called my local stores here in town of the same chain, and was NOT hung up on in this manner. Athenon (talk) 17:36, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

it says it in the 4th book.some body probaly just said that afer reading it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.231.2.243 (talk) 02:31, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Volturi

I've noticed that while everyone is focused on Bella having a child and Jacob imprinting on it, noone seems to be saying much else about the book.

The Vulturi Coven is as follows: (- means bonded pair, *means vampire posses a quantifiable supernatural talent, and __ underlined meand deceaces before the beginning of breaking dawn. Aro*-Sculpicia Caius-athenodora Marcus*-Didyme

The Vulturi gaurd: Alec* Chelsea*-Afton* Corin* Demetri* Felix Heidi* Jane* Renata* Santiago

if anyone can help further my indicating what power tha vampire possesses that would be appreciated! :D -from, stingraerae --Stingraerae (talk) 01:37, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

What happens to the Volturi? What is Alec's power?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.30.41.90 (talk) 18:30, 2 August 2008 (UTC) 

Well, considering no one editior has even tried to regularly fix this article up yet, I would imagine that the plot section is very bad right now. Hopefully I can bring it up to scratch. ~ Bella Swan^? 19:46, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

--Stingraerae (talk) 01:37, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Early Book Release section?

o_O I haven't bought the book, I've missed out on so much insaneness.

Anyways, back to work. Is the early book release section really necessary? I think it could easily be put in the intro. Any feedback on this? Is it really that uncommon that it needs its own section? From what I can discern, it's not insanely important. IceUnshattered (talk) 19:41, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Actually, the article should have a 'pre-release history' section like in the HP7 article. ~ Bella Swan^? 19:58, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

But is there that much of a "history: to merit its own section? (Excuse my lack of knowledge) IceUnshattered (talk) 22:04, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

I agree, this section could easily be put in the introduction if there isn't enough to have a section to itself. --Calisa (talk) 07:17, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

The section should entail all the hype that occured before the release of the book, and I'm sure there was enough articles written about the book before it was released, not to mention that the early book release would go under that section as well. ~ Bella Swan^? 13:44, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Is this the end...?

There's been a lot of arguing over whether or not Breaking Dawn is the last book in the series, or just the last book from Bella's perspective. We are pretty certain that at least Midnight Sun is coming out. Because of this, I do not know what it should say in the article. Thoughts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ehccheehcche (talk • contribs) 11:20, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

I think other books (Midnight Sun, the "official guide") should be considered "companions" to the series. They don't follow the chronology of the main four, but they do share the characters, storyline, etc. Ashleyy osaurus (talk) 00:36, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

They're being marketed as companions, and the end of the last book says "The End." (and not "The End?" or something similar), so I think we can be fairly confident. Exploding Boy (talk) 04:40, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Saying that it's the end of the series implies that there will never be any future stories with the characters. Midnight Sun most definitely will be a companion but I would argue that any other stories Stephenie chooses to publish in the Twilight universe would be considered part of the series. Canez (talk) 16:17, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, Midnight Sun is bascally twilight in edward's POV Yugioh1126 (talk) 22:52, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Criticisms and Reaction sections

These sections need some work. There are too many references for the Reaction section -- way more than are really needed.

The Criticisms section is fully of thinly veiled copyvios, and really needs to be tightened up. References to Amazon reader comments are ok (not great, but ok), but they should be much more clearly discussed and referenced: "as of xx date, xx number of comments were positive and xx negative." Reviews should be by someone at least semi-notable. A New York Times book review is good; comments on a blog by someone named "Claire R." are not. The section is also full of weasel words like "some" and "many." Exploding Boy (talk) 23:55, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Stephenie Meyer has said that because a certian people posted a draft of Midnight Sun online without her permission,she is not certain about weather she should finish writhing the book or now. For those wondering what happened to that illigal draft posted online, the link is right here: http://www.stepheniemeyer.com/midnightsun.html scrool down a bit on the link and you will find it. I hope that helped! email me if you have any comments at: chainmailemail@gmail.com that is chain mail email if you were wondering. thanks! :D bye bye! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stingraerae (talk • contribs) 01:24, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

I second that. It's ludicrous to have the main body of a criticisms section be a copy-paste of a blog comment. Last time I checked, blogs themselves rarely qualified for inclusion in an article, let alone their readers' comments. 74.227.246.206 (talk) 02:18, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

I've fixed it up a bit, and added better refs as well. The comment that was given by the girl "Claire R." was actually used in an article, and that's probably why it was added to the article. ~ Bella Swan^? 16:03, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Kristen Stewart herself called this book a "doozy" and that she "can't wait to find out who...brought it to life", I am not able to add this line because of that lock thing in the article and because I am new to wikipedia. Check out the interview here:

http://www.popsugar.com/6202166

My opinion.

In an interview about Breaking Dawn Stephenie said that Breaking Dawn is loosly based on two classic novels. She revealed the first book A midsummer's Night's Dream by William Shakespear. But she wouldn't reveal the second book because it would give the story away. But though this has not been confirmed I am quite sure that the second book is Rosemary's Baby. Does anyone agree with me?24.36.92.110 (talk) 00:00, 23 August 2008 (UTC)Anonymous

Wikipedia is not a forum. This page is to discuss improvements to the Breaking Dawn article. I suggest you take this to a Breaking Dawn forum or fansite. DaRkAgE7_[Talk] 01:24, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

That other book is actually The Merchant of Venice, Meyer said so on her website [1]. :) That said, you're not the only one with this opinion. Some similarity to Rosemary's Baby has been noted by the press, too. [2][3] [4]. :) --PeaceNT (talk) 06:29, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Twilight Task Force

This is a note saying that a Twilight Task Force might be in the works. A poll is currently being held here to see who would be willing to join. If you would like to join, please participate in this poll. Thanks, ~ Bella Swan^? 13:43, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Plot Section

Whoever did thanks, thanks. It really needed it. ~ Bella Swan^? 00:46, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Meghan--thats me-- is theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee biggest fan ever!!! i love breaking dawn. best one in the series —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.214.167.189 (talk) 00:24, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Wow, that's a really unencyclopedic plot summary. I recommend it be scrapped if I thought someone who had actually read the story knew what they were doing in terms of contributing to an encyclopedia. Somehow you managed to be more verbose and hackneyed than Meyer's own writing. 211.27.69.159 (talk) 06:10, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

CGI Renesmee

The introduction mentions, that it would be difficult to do a Breaking Dawn movie due to Reneesme and CGI humans not looking real. Why would Reneesme need to be done in CGI? Please explain that sentence or cut it out. 89.246.216.16 (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 23:09, 20 September 2008 (UTC).

It's Meyer's word from her BD FAQ; she believes that the film may be impossible because Renesmee has a high awareness level, so, apparently, an actress could not play her. Therefore, it would have to be CGI, but she wouldn't look realistic. However, Meyer doesn't seem to know that a child could be used (or multiple, depending on laws), and their faces can be edited later on to coincide with whatever was going on. Second, a CGI Renesmee could be made; if we take a look at current CGI (or even the 2005 Advent Children movie), we know it's pretty advanced when it comes to humans. By the time the movie would be made, the CGI could be totally ready. The problem really would be budget, and Breaking Dawn does contain that birth scene, Bella getting bruised up after sex, the imprinting on a child, etc...In my opinion, Meyer should be more worried about the content, not CGI. The latter of what I've written can't be added because it's original research and POV, but I hoped I explained that better. For more info, check the FAQ on her site. WhiteArcticWolf (talk) 23:17, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for explaining that, but the article introduction is still incomprehensible in that regard. The sentence needs to be explained further or moved somewhere else. --89.246.218.144 (talk) 20:51, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

I've improved it a little, explaining why (in Meyer's opinion) it would need to be done in CGI. It still needs a little fixing up, though. WhiteArcticWolf (talk) 00:35, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

twilight ,newmoon ,eclipse .breakingdawn ,midnight sun —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.20.157.196 (talk) 23:17, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

The Plot Summary

Someone has changed the plot summary by putting in that Edward abandons Bella and states that he is actually gay. This is not what happened in the story.

60.229.108.209 (talk) 08:19, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

That'd be a twist in the story! Gladly, its been fixed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.243.34.254 (talk) 19:03, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Cover

The cover stands for bella as a human and then tranforming into a vampire. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.198.112.41 (talk) 00:00, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. The meaning of the cover is already included in the article. Andrea (talk) 05:34, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Added some info on the book's film potential

Can someone help me out with the small bit that I added? I want to make sure it's all good.chris (talk) 08:33, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Final book in the series

If we say "the final book" then what about Midnight Sun? She never said she won't finish it • S • C • A • R • C • E • 05:06, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

If Midnight Sun is published, I'm still not sure it would be considered the final book in the series. Chronologically, Breaking Dawn would be the end of the Twilight story, and MS would moreso be a companion book to the series. The series is technically complete without it. Saying that BD is "currently" the final book is misleading and makes it sound as if the story is not over and there will likely be a book to follow it. Even if MS could count as such a book, since it isn't currently a novel that we know will be published, it's a moot point anyways. Andrea (talk) 12:14, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

diz iznt da finnal buk. der r sum spellin erroz butt nut alot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.189.187.172 (talk) 20:21, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

ATTENTION PLEASE

PLEASE remove the blasphemous remark made at the bottom of this article. It can be found immediately following the "External Links" section, when reading the article in normal view. Not only was it clearly made by an illiterate neanderthal, but it is hurtful to the rare few people who respect Edward Cullen and all he represents. A snide comment could never tarnish his character, nor the great twilight saga. Please edit this, I am afraid I am unable to edit the article myself. Thank you for your consideration. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DEasone (talk • contribs) 08:08, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

plot

i'd like to add about how their life went before irina came as their is like nothing about it there. i am not a member so i can't edit but maybe those who can will. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.36.240.178 (talk) 11:29, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Breaking Dawn split into two movies? ALMOST CONFIRMED!

Summit Entertainment is very close to confirming the fact that The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn will be split into two movies. The first movie is somewhat the happiest movie that the Twilight Saga has been giving us, because of the fact that every movie has some type of problem in it, but the first section of the movie is all about Edward Cullen and Isabella Marie Swan getting married and it will also show their time in their honeymoon and Isabella's request of Edward making love to her. It will also show when Isabella is understanding that she is pregnant with Edward's child when he made love to her. The movie is somewhat rated. There will probably be a scene of a vampire and a human making love to each other. There will most likely be a scene of a human giving a gory birth to a half human/vampire child. The second and probably the last movie in the series is the explanation of Jacob Blacks life, and what he is going through when Bella is gone. It shows how his life has become depressing and sad without her presence. This part will be from Jacob's point of view, and not Bella's point of view like it is in all the other stories. In the end, when he see's Bella giving birth, (because this part is explained through his eye's and later Bella's), It expresses the sudden hate he felt for the child that she is carrying. When he is walking down the stairs thinking that its over, and there is no reason that he shall live anymore he blames this reason to the child she is carrying. His plan was that he will attack the child right there and then, but then he see's the child's eyes and suddenly he imprints on her. That is the end of the explanation through Jacob Black's point of view, where it now, jumps back to Bella in the movie. In the end it explains how and what Bella is feeling throughout giving birth to her child. It also explains her life as a full vampire and the feelings she has been feeling and how she can adapt to vampire nature quick. It seems to be a happy life for her because everything just seems perfect. Jacob who is now attached to Bella's child is still in Bella's life, so she has not lost that part, and Edward is also by her side throughout all of this. The Volturi get involved in this when they plan to kill Bella's child. The ending is how The Cullen's show the Volturi that they are prepared to fight them. Obviously in the end, the Cullen's show the Volturi their point of view and how Bella's child means no harm and that they have no reason to kill her. The Volturi are suddenly stranded with no reason to harm the child. They let the Cullen's be and leave. The Cullen's are ecstatic with joy that they have won this. It concludes with Bella and Edward living happily ever after. For now.

I shortened the ending a little because it is better when you actually read the book, and feel some of the things that Bella and her family have been feeling when all this was happening in their lives. If you read the book you will know what i am talking about. I hope that i presented enough and adequate information to provide everyone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Afrida1220 (talk • contribs) 05:16, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Breaking Dawn the Film

I just felt in the final section you should mention that Christian Serrentos at a recent public event, accidently let slip that filming will begin in October 2011.

Breaking Dawn

I would just like to voice my oppinion that Stephanie should write another book to answer our questions as to what happens with Reneesme and Jacob. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.163.54.218 (talk) 15:07, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Prank on page?

I belive someone has played a prank on the page, in the last sentance of the first paragraph in the plot summary. I would fix it, but i never read any of the series/ seen the movies, so I dont know if its true.--Usmc22 (talk) 15:10, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Already fixed. Andrea (talk) 18:31, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

you sure it's been fixed? Haven't read the book, but I'm pretty sure spiderman only plays a minimal role...haha seriously that plot summary was a good laugh, but should probably be fixed by someone who's read the book! Oct 13, 2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.76.177.151 (talk) 03:44, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Category

I believe this category should be added to this page: [[Category:Vampires in written fiction]].

76.180.238.15 (talk) 02:30, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Breaking Dawn novel plot summery has been changed

Someone has changed the plots summery to Breaking Dawn. It says that

"After the child is born, the wolf pack eats Bella. Outraged, Edward eats Jacob. An uprising between the Cullens and the wolf pack begins and eventually the only survivor is the baby.

The novel's third and shortest part is written from the perspective of Renesmee, Bella's baby. She continues to develop at a very rapid rate. A year after her birth, Renesmee morphs into a werewolf."

All of this is not true. I have read the novel and no one gets eaten; Bella, Edward, and Jacob survive at the end of the novel; and the third part is not written from Renesmee's point of view. She also doesn't morph into a werewolf. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.20.178.230 (talk) 20:22, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Yikes! This article needs serious rework to be intelligible to those who aren't die-hard fans

I just clicked over here trying to get background info to follow a conversation about "Breaking Dawn." Yes I do know that the main characters in the "Twilight" series are Bella, Edward and Jacob, and that it's about vampires, but I don't think an encyclopedic article can assume much more than that from a reader. This article is one big string of "Who he?" and "Who she?" and "What the heck is that?" and "Huh?" I don't usually comment on Wikipedia articles because I think I should fix them myself, but in this case, there are about a million people better qualified and more motivated to do so than I am. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.22.44.210 (talk) 01:17, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

if u could can u tell me when part2 is comming out im twilights BIGGEST fan so could u? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.58.25.2 (talk) 13:24, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

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Featured Article

Hello everyone. I suggest that this page be nominated as a Featured Article. Given that I've never edited this page, I can't properly nominate it. However, after reading it through I can say it's a fit contender. Agreed? --Matt723star (talk) 21:49, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

I'd agree with you. I'm not sure who did most of the content work, so I'll look through the history and possibly ping some of the big players if they're still active. White Arabian Filly ^Neigh 20:41, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

I was under the impression that this was already GA, but it's not (GA symbols don't appear at the top of the article while in mobile view). Looking at the edit history it's also hard to find out who actually wrote this. Most of the revisions are vandalism or reversion. Anybody can nominate for GA, so I'd suggest you do that first and then go for FA. White Arabian Filly ^Neigh 21:26, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

Updates to Forks Washington tourist location

Forks chamber of commerce is wanting people who visit to not just bookmark different scenes from the Twilight Saga filming locations, but would like to highlight the Bocacheil National Park, the local Beachcombing museum, explore the Olympic National Forest, while also encouraging such enthusiasts, to enjoy the Twilight Fest, from September 12-15, 2024 to eat, sleep, and breathe your obsession! 2604:4E00:101E:8B00:CFF9:253C:929B:FC12 (talk) 03:52, 26 February 2024 (UTC)