Talk:Breaking Bad season 5

past tense

the season already ended but the article is still written in past tense. IE First paragraph says "season five will be the final season of breaking bad and will consist of 16 episodes" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.18.167.97 (talk) 06:53, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Technically speaking, the season is half way done. Leitmotiv (talk) 15:26, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

To also be technical, "season five will be the final season of breaking bad and will consist of 16 episodes" is present/future tense. I have heard Bryan Cranston speak of the second half of Season 5 as being the sixth season, but it is actually as it is posted. — WylieCoyote (talk) 22:28, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

episode #2

that businessman - he's from switzerland. at least that scene takes place in switzerland and people have a swiss accent. regards from austria ;) 84.114.197.3 (talk) 20:22, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

I think the "German" correlation means that the company is in Germany and employs the Swiss. It is a Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung company, a legal entity that covers several countries. — WylieCoyote (talk) 20:56, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

"Everybody Wins" episode

Has anyone else seen this episode title anywhere? I saw it on Futon Critic's listings for August 26. I wonder if this will be the September 2 title instead, or they just changed the title entirely? I checked AMC's future schedule which has yet to list Sept. 2 (scroll/page down if you view it). Just curious. A redirect article was created for "Everybody Wins" at some point too. — WylieCoyote (talk) 17:10, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

I nommed the "Everybody Wins (Breaking Bad)" for speedy deletion as I doubt an episode will be called that. — WylieCoyote (talk) 00:30, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

The episode was retitled "Say My Name". It aired last night. SchrutedIt08 (talk) 00:56, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

"Everybody Wins" has been re-directed to "Buyout (Breaking Bad)" as per this WP:RfD discussion. It was spoken at the end of the episode. — WylieCoyote (talk) 15:24, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Not going to argue over a little redirect, but the titles "Buyout" and "Everybody Wins" were known at the same time, so "Everybody Wins" didn't become "Buyout", it became "Say My Name", as "Everybody Wins" was known as episode 7. The Futon Critic has it labeled "(#507) Say My Name (FKA Everybody Wins)". The fact that that line is spoken at end of the previous episode doesn't mater much, given "Buyout" is about a buyout, and "Say My Name" is about Walter's plan of "everybody wins". But whatever, I just wanted to comment, don't want make a big deal out of nothing. Cheers. Drovethrughosts (talk) 15:37, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Just goes to show: don't title articles until they air. I changed it to the proper redirect, even though only a few commented at the RfD above. — WylieCoyote (talk) 16:04, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

I respectfully disagree, but will not undo what has been done - even though I'm a little discouraged that a consensus decision was undone in a matter of hours. I say it's more likely that a user would search on a term actually spoken in an episode (especially the last, pivotal line), rather than a "behind the scenes" title that was discarded. If Everybody Wins (Breaking Bad) points to Say My Name (Breaking Bad), it should at least mention the former title, to confirm to the user that they have reached the correct article. I'll add this information. Hoof Hearted (talk) 16:15, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Dead Freight Air Date

The Air Date for Dead Freight is Aug 12, not Aug 13 like in the article — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.252.183.127 (talk) 22:33, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

We fixed the article, thanks. This could've went on the episode article page. — WylieCoyote (talk) 20:13, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Creating episode articles

Not that anyone will see this, but in creating episode articles, please check Wikipedia before creating them to see if one has already been named and redirected here. For example, "Dead Freight" was created on July 29 and automatically redirected to the Season 5 page. Another editor created "Dead Freight (Breaking Bad)" on August 13. I had to go to the first and redirect to the second. Also, the proper Wikipedia naming policy is: if no other article exists, it's okay to title the episode article without the added series parentheses, as "Hazard Pay" has been done. The only time you added the series parentheses is in the case of "Say My Name", which has a disambiguation page, but, when typed in a search box by itself, takes you to the Destiny's Child song. By the way, "Say My Name (Breaking Bad)" was also pre-created on August 12 and redirected here. — WylieCoyote (talk) 20:13, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

This is why episode article redirects shouldn't be created in advance, because usually another editor will come along trying to create the article and will be redirected (and most likely not know how to get to that target article without being redirected), so they'll create another article, usually with an incorrect name or like what was done with "Dead Freight". Because yes, "Dead Freight (Breaking Bad)" should just be "Dead Freight", but can't be moved because there's already a page with that name, and an editor will probably have to request that the page be moved. It's easier if editors don't create these redirects in advance. Drovethrughosts (talk) 21:17, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Totally agree. What I do is: wait till a few days, maybe even just one, before the episode airs, create it with just enough info to pass as a stub using the basic information — episode number, writer/director, infobox, and ext. links — then add a "construction" tag to it. That saves redirecting. But, again, they should check to see if one exists before even jumping into it. And if it is redirected, it's easy to edit over the redirect, so long as the article is properly named. If anyone who reads our comments needs assistance with this, just ask on our...well, my talkpage. — WylieCoyote (talk) 14:29, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 28 August 2012

I noticed some spelling mistakes that need changing. The term "methalymine" is misspelled in two places under the Plot heading and should be replaced with "methylamine". Wrightgw (talk) 03:37, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Done Thank you for pointing it out. A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 07:04, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Second part of Season 5

Would it be possible to put the info of there being a second part of the season coming in 2013 (seemingly confirmed here)? Or at least point out that there will be 16 episodes? I made the mistake of thinking that the 8th episode was actually the last, I'm presuming, that by looking at the wiki, more people will think the same. Alphasoldier (talk) 10:47, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Nevermind this ridiculous addition, I just reread the top part of the article, I think I was just blinded by the fact that the episode list stopped by 8 episodes, my apologies. Alphasoldier (talk) 10:49, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Breaking Bad's IMDb page has been updated - there's three new titles of episodes: 5.09 - The Decision; 5.15 - Fifty-Two; 5.16 - Crystal Clear [ series finale].

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0903747/episodes?season=5&ref_=tt_eps_sn_5

"Most likely" Walter White.

Is this a correct term to use? It seems to me that there is no doubt that Hank realised the other W.W reffered to Walter White. "Most likely"? Where's the doubt? 92.7.84.178 (talk) 15:47, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

But synopses are only supposed to detail what they specifically and clearly show in the episode. Episode 8 does not declare W.W. is Walter White even though we as a viewer may infer that. All this episode shows is Hank reading a book that says W.W. and then that's it, the episode ends. Anything else we put is deduction and that's not the purpose or function synopses. Technically, "most likely" is even too much, since it's still deducing. Leitmotiv (talk) 16:32, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

This certainly isn't the case in the other descriptions of the episode ending on other Breaking Bad pages. All this episode shows is Hank reading a book that says W.W. and then that's it, the episode ends. This is incorrect - Hank has a flashback to their ealier conversation and ends on a shocked reaction - the realization that Walter is Heisenberg. If we still somehow can't come to an agreement about whether or not Hank realizes Walt is the other W.W. (lol) then I suggest we change it to how the article of the episode itself words the ending - "As he thumbs through the pages of the book, Hank finds a dedication: "To my other favorite W.W. It’s an honour working with you. Fondly, G.B.” Flashing back to a much earlier conversation, in which Walter jokingly admits to being the "W.W." found in Gale's lab notebook, Hank becomes visibly shocked. At least everyone can agree on that. "Most likely" seems silly to use in this context. 92.7.99.147 (talk) 18:04, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Just to chime in, the synopsis on the official website says, "Back in the present, a look of horror crosses Hank's face as the realization sinks in: Walt is Heisenberg." If the official synopsis declares that, then I think we can too. Drovethrughosts (talk) 20:30, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Excellent! Thank you so much for the link. No doubt it saved us alot of time debating. 92.7.99.147 (talk) 21:10, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

That's a primary source though. Secondary sources are the first priority. If we are to continue to speculate on what the episode doesn't specifically show, you'll need to reference it. Leitmotiv (talk) 15:34, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

The official synopsis from the website is more than enough. I don't see any speculation here. I consider this issue done and dusted. Vember94 (talk) 13:15, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Removed a line: "Hank now clearly sees that Walter is Heisenberg"

The line "Hank now clearly sees that Walter is Heisenberg" used to conclude the "plot" section on this page. I removed it. While it's a logical conclusion, given the events of the episode and the expression on Hank's face, it is still a viewer conclusion and not yet verified by the show. We don't _know_ that Hank knows Walt is Heisenberg. We just assume he knows.

Lazr75 (talk) 16:50, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

This issue has already been resolved in the section above. It's included in synopsis for the episode on the official website. So it's perfectly acceptable to include here as well. Drovethrughosts (talk) 17:09, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

"The Decision"

Why again has Dean Norris' tweet been rejected as a reliable source for the title of episode 9? -- Wikipedical (talk) 08:09, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Given the picture included with the tweet, it can easily be taken for sarcasm or a joke. It's not like that's an actual photo from the episode. The Hollywood Reporter article also makes no mention that the episode is actually called "The Decision". And actually while looking at some of Dean Norris' tweets, I found this, which seems to make me think it's just a joke (including the title). Anyway, that's my opinion. Drovethrughosts (talk) 14:06, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

You mean the episode WON'T be about Hank running out of toilet paper and puzzling over what to do? I'm so disappointed. --SubSeven (talk) 16:11, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

That's fair; didn't see that second tweet. Was asking only because I didn't see any justification for removing the first one, thanks. -- Wikipedical (talk) 17:08, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Air date

The newly posted information may be the old tweet, but it was posted only 14 hours ago, and also on the official Breaking Bad instagram, so I think we can assume it's true. 91.240.47.30 (talk) 19:19, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Please refrain from posting this again, highly unlikely this news would break on Instagram, of all places. The official website, official Twitter, and official Facebook page, all still state "Returns Summer 2013". If this news were to be released by AMC, it'd appear in a press release or a news article, not a reposting of a deleted tweet (that was denied by AMC) on Instagram. Also, in the latest blog entry posted on the official website on March 5, it states "Breaking Bad returns with the final episodes Summer 2013 on AMC." If it were true, several entertainment/TV websites would have posted it by now. I'm not denying this date may not eventually be true, but should wait for more reliable sources to post this information. Thank you. Drovethrughosts (talk) 22:17, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Breaking Bad's IMDb page has been updated - there's three new titles of episodes: 5.09 - The Decision; 5.15 - Fifty-Two; 5.16 - Crystal Clear [ series finale].

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0903747/episodes?season=5&ref_=tt_eps_sn_5

The IMDb is not a reliable source. It is user-generated, meaning anyone can log in and add any information they want, regardless of whether it is true or not. -- SchrutedIt08 (talk) 10:03, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Part 1 and Part 2

Because the DVDs will be released in two separate "parts," with the first and second 8 episodes in different sets, what do we think about re-separating the season into "Part I" and "Part II" again, a la The Sopranos (season 6)? -- Wikipedical (talk) 19:02, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Support. I was against it back when it looked like AMC would just wait to release all 16 episodes in one DVD set, but plans have apparently changed so there's no real reason not to change it back. -- SchrutedIt08 (talk) 22:17, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

I have made the change. -- Wikipedical (talk) 01:23, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Small thought, how about we use the same colour for part two as well for now? The red it just so jarring compared to the green. Drovethrughosts (talk) 12:49, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Doesn't have to be red. I think it's better to differentiate between the two parts with a different colour, but it can be any colour you want. -- SchrutedIt08 (talk) 00:20, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Why is this even treated as one single season? They were one full year apart, they were released on two separate DVDs as the "fifth season" AND the "final season"?? And there are two completely separate and distinct story arcs. Whatever argument there may have been for considering them as one season at one point, it doesn't appear to exist now. OBloodyHell (talk) 05:35, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

"Plot" section

This section seems vestigial to me. We already have full episode-by-episode descriptions, and the section seems to be no shorter than if we just took all of the episode descriptions and pasted them there. Deadbeef 23:01, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

I agree, there's no reason to have two sections that are doing the same thing. Unless the episode summaries are just going to be a few sentences (like the first few), then having an expanded plot section makes sense. But, if people are going to write long summaries in the episode list, then it makes the other redundant. Either the summaries in the episode list need to be trimmed big time, or we merge plot content into the episode list for episodes that have short summaries, and then get rid of the plot section. Drovethrughosts (talk) 12:55, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

I prefer the former. The plot section, as is, would serve readers who want a comprehensive summary of the season well. (Even so, it could do with a good trimming; I balk at how it might look five episodes from now). A short couple of sentences per episode in the episode list would serve readers who just want a quick line-by-line look at the season. This seems like the most intuitive solution. Deadbeef 16:13, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Pluralisation?

Due to the way this season has been marketed. Would the first line reading "The fifth and final seasons" rather than the singular form be better? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.132.224.30 (talk) 11:15, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

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